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Title: Abstract Art
Post by: dennis on February 01, 2010, 08:52:06 PM
Abstract Art - What does it mean to you? How would it help you if you were a fine art artist? Give us your views
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: nolan on February 02, 2010, 12:38:28 AM
Although I do paint abstract on the odd occasion, most notably when I hold an Abstract workshop  <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
I can't particularly say I am not too crazy about them in general. They have their place in the art spectrum and can look great if hung in the right place - eg - offices or modern lounges, but they have to be painted with skill. Many people underestimate the skill required to paint a great looking abstract.

What abstract paintings are great for is expressing emotion, eg. at one stage I was pretty upset at the terrible crime stats in South Africa, so I did this abstract showing the rape statistic in the country :

(http://paintbasket.com/studios/orewa/files/2010/02/dscf7698.jpg)
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: Val on November 08, 2010, 11:03:53 PM
I must admit I am a complete neophite when it comes to abstract. Mind you apparently some of my (serious) works have resulted in what may actually have been abstract.  :D
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: nolan on November 09, 2010, 12:01:32 AM
 ;D funny how what you have planned can turn out so different in the end
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: Kelley on November 09, 2010, 01:45:19 AM
More times than not I find this to be so true! 
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: dennis on November 09, 2010, 08:23:59 AM
Actually, most paintings are just a collection of lots of bits of abstract art! Hey! you're kidding me? No I'm not!

Take virtually any impressionistic (or others) painting and divide it up into lots of small blocks. Then take a large piece of paper and in the center cut a square the same size as those on the picture of the painting.

Now place the square cut-out over any of the squares on the picture and you will see that they are little abstract, or almost abstract,  paintings on their own.  And what do you say now? And then people say they do not like abstract art?  NEVER say never!

Many years ago there was a program on TV where one had to guess what the object was. They photographed a small section of everyday objects. Very seldom was one able to make a correct guess - it was so abstract.

Have a great time studying abstract :heeha:
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: Val on November 09, 2010, 09:24:51 AM
Well, I can't say I understand it...but some abstracts I've actually found quite pleasing...just don't know why? :confused:   :)
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: nolan on November 09, 2010, 10:19:36 AM
I find that the good abstract paintings that are eye catching actually all follow the rules of colour mixing and composition. It's actually easy to spot an accomplished abstract artist vs an amateur for this exact reason - inside the abstraction you can still find the balance and composition.
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: dennis on November 09, 2010, 07:05:50 PM
Well said, Nolan :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: Val on November 09, 2010, 09:48:44 PM
Well, I'll give it a go. There are a few small galleries scattered about the islands so I shall make a point of finding a few and see what I shall see. Nice part is you usually get to talk to the artists. This could be a fun assignment.
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: nolan on November 10, 2010, 07:50:44 AM
 :heeha: I sense a few new additions to the gallery coming up soon, can't wait
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: Val on November 10, 2010, 09:31:02 AM
 :-X
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: nolan on November 10, 2010, 10:00:29 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: bottleman on November 15, 2010, 11:59:26 PM
Let's say a completed painting has 100 visual points, credits, or percentages.  To be clear, this is not some mathematical formula or rating system, just an analogy for the sake of discussion.

You begin to remove elements of realism, so now those visual points have to be spent elsewhere, as the total must still be 100.  For example, dabs of strong colour will take the place of detail.  Next, shadows and light source are removed.  Instead, contrast will be created through colour temperatures.  Finally, even depth and perspective are traded in, and those points are allocated to paint texture and brush marks; to help keep the viewer's eye moving.

At any rate, that's one of the ways I approach abstract art; a redistribution of visual elements.  Everyone starts with a blank canvas, and everyone finishes with a visual object.
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: Kelley on November 16, 2010, 01:51:47 AM
 O0 That is a excellent explanation for painting abstract. Thank you Bottleman.
Title: Re: Abstract Art
Post by: nolan on November 16, 2010, 07:09:31 AM
great post Bottleman O0
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