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Title: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 14, 2012, 01:54:24 AM
In order for me to easily find and answer queries about this Lesson I will appreciate it if everyone will keep these to this specific Lesson Posting only. This will also be of benefit to you as well in the future. Thanks.

Download the template we will be using HERE (http://courses.paintbasket.com/handouts/watercolour-tonal-range-template.pdf)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on January 14, 2012, 05:41:50 PM
Dennis,
I do not know if others are having this problem,  When i print the templet, (sp)  My printer is not printing most of the lines, they show on the screen, but even on max DPI all my machine prints is the darkest lines of the building.
(printing in gray scale)  I suspect the machine is "Reading" the other lines as background.

I'll try on my other printer and IF I still have problems, I'll let you know.  Due to the time difference, both post should be there by your morning. 

even if I cannot print all the lines, there is no need to redo for just one person, I'll "freehand" the other lines in.

Regards
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on January 14, 2012, 06:02:12 PM
I solved the problem

here's how I solved it:  Went to print properties
                                      to Color
                                      "clicked"  Gray scale
                                      "clicked"  Black ink only

When it printed, it printed everything including the wrinkles in the paper and the discoloration at the bottom of the  :D :D :D

All the lines needed for the painting are clear and e-z to see

Hope this helps anyone else who has a problem with printing this image

Have a great day
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 14, 2012, 07:46:13 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on January 14, 2012, 09:02:44 PM
Well Brian,
I tried your idea with the printer. It did not work. But the color worked for me. I wish I could of used it the way you said, it would be great for black and white pic instead of color. Oh well that is life.  :2funny:
It s acrazy world out there.    :crazy2:
Nina
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: erika on January 16, 2012, 12:35:17 AM
For the tonal webinar I did my own drawing but could only watch for the latter part - nevertheless not going to let that stop me, I jumped right in and this is what eventuated... critiques please   :squareeyes:

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 16, 2012, 01:46:23 AM
That's what I like to see - someone who is not afraid to jump right in and do the job  :clap: :clap:
Good old fisherman's cottages. Very nicely done. The mere fact of doing it is half the battle won.

If this was to be used as a guide to an actual painting I would modify the horizon line to not be such a straight line - such as adding a distant hill on the left. You have to slow down the viewer's eye. A straight line zips the eye too fast from one side to the other.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maryna on January 16, 2012, 04:31:51 AM
Nice going Erika!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: erika on January 16, 2012, 07:16:17 AM
thanks Maryna and thank you Dennis - I will try again and see what happens..    :painting:

I actually wondered about the lonely tree - maybe one could add a couple to that one and flesh out the background that way?   :confused:

And then I thought the horizon line is actually too dark.. the further away things are, the lighter they get, not?  :parachute:

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to use my watercolours..... e^)   :dance:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 16, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
The whole idea of the tonal sketch is to flesh out a composition for a subsequent painting. It is here where you can add and  subtract and move things around until you are happy with the result. If your tonal sketch looks OK then it is more likely that the one in colour will also be OK.

The horizon line is not too dark. Remember there are clouds around that throw shadows on the ground.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: claude on January 17, 2012, 02:48:12 PM
Dennis my good man, from class no. 2, is there a pdf to download somewhere?
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 17, 2012, 07:02:44 PM
Here are the handouts. They will also be on the replay as soon as it is online.

Cottage (http://courses.paintbasket.com/handouts/watercolours-lesson-2-cottage.pdf)
Lesson #2 (http://courses.paintbasket.com/handouts/Watercolours-lesson-2.pdf)
Template (http://courses.paintbasket.com/handouts/watercolour-tonal-range-template.pdf)

Hope you are enjoying the challenge. Churchill once started a  speech at a large gathering, "Never, never, ever, ever, ever, give up!" and then promptly sat down.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on January 17, 2012, 07:10:59 PM
Erika you did a fabulous job on your tonal painting...  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maryna on January 17, 2012, 07:27:31 PM
Thanks Dennis and Nolan, I see lesson nr 2 is up (even though it says lesson 1 on the video - we forgive you Nolan  ;D )

Can't wait to get started. Thanks so much for your hard work  :)

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 17, 2012, 08:05:43 PM
Nice work on your tonal painting, Erika.   :clap: :clap: :clap:  You're way ahead of me.

I'm waiting for the replay but I'm getting a nice sneak preview.   :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 17, 2012, 10:49:34 PM
I just watched the replay and enjoyed every minute as usual!   :thankyou: Dennis and Nolan.

Again, Dennis you've inspired me! 

I've learned a lot, now to apply what I've learned.  Therein lies the challenge!   :-\
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: erika on January 18, 2012, 12:48:22 AM
Watching the replay now - great stuff!!!  :thankyou:

Thanks for the comments guys, I jumped in at the end and never saw the tonal ranges, and never did the notan.... so here's going back to the drawing board ;-)    :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maryna on January 18, 2012, 01:32:07 PM
Really did not want to post this, the ugliest thing I ever painted   :uglystupid2:

I will try it again, but would rather want to do it in colour.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 18, 2012, 02:28:25 PM
It's not so bad, Maryna!   :congrats:   Practicing is how we learn.  I probably won't do much better, you just wait and see.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 18, 2012, 05:38:51 PM
Maryna, you did very well. Remember is not about a masterpiece at this moment, it is about learning techniques and for a beginner I am very impressed. Also the tonal painting is a preliminary to a final painting in colour. It is here where you work out the tonal ranges.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lyndy on January 18, 2012, 07:24:10 PM
Nice work Maryna, I haven't even started mine yet  :blush:  Just finished watching the replay.
Thanks Dennis that was a great lesson. Looking forward to doing those trees, something I usually avoid like the plague as I can never get them to look right  :(
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: erika on January 18, 2012, 08:36:02 PM
That's lovely Maryna, I like the looseness of it - is there such a word??  And your contrasts are great ..e^)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on January 18, 2012, 09:00:34 PM
 :clap:  :clap: :clap: Well done Maryna... nicely done  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lyndy on January 19, 2012, 06:22:43 PM
Not too happy with my outcome, got a real crooked little cottage  :-\  Enjoyed doing it though. Thanks Dennis[img]
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 19, 2012, 07:13:51 PM
Hi Lyndy. It is not the crookedness of the cottage that is at stake here but the understanding of the tonal ranges in a painting.

This you have captured very well except that the door in the shadow area of the extension has too much light in it. You have shown it as if it is in sunlight whereas the door is completely in the shadow area. Other than that - well done  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Tonal Painting
Post by: NHC50 on January 19, 2012, 08:01:52 PM
Well I did it. This is my second painting. The first one was a a mess. So I did it again. Tree are not that good. I have trouble with the amount of water to use. But I know practice makes perfsect.   :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: nolan on January 19, 2012, 08:24:14 PM
 :yippee: great job everybody, I am amazed at the quality of the paintings  :cloud9:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: magda on January 19, 2012, 09:07:02 PM
Hahaha, Dennis, I'm watching the 2nd lesson right now and I've come to this part where you mention the cauli flower again. At this point I realised I definitively have to teach you some polish: it's MAAAGGGDAAA (not MaHHHda like AHHHmad)  :2funny: In Poland we mostly pronounce the letters as we see them. So the M is like in the 'my' word, the A is short like in the 'can't' word, the G is tough like in the 'God' word, the D is like in the 'door' word and the last A is again like from the 'can't' word  :gl: putting them all together (brake your tongue, we say)  :clap: The same with KLEKS; try to figure it out yourself (it's singularis, by the way)  :gl2: with this one  :whistle:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Kelley on January 20, 2012, 03:07:46 AM
 :2funny: Magda
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maryna on January 20, 2012, 04:32:31 AM
Wow Lyndy, nice job. Everyone is doing well on this,  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lyndy on January 20, 2012, 08:46:21 AM
Thanks Dennis, I will work on that door  :thankyou:
Thanks Maryna, yes everyone is submitting some real good work. Makes me  :envy: and not wanting to submit mine  :-\
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 20, 2012, 08:58:08 AM
Nina, the amount of water on the paper as well as the brush only comes from experience.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on January 20, 2012, 09:37:45 AM
Wow  :heeha: ... all these tonal painting are so great  :clap: :clap: :clap: ... well done everyone and great job. O0

I still need to watch the video, but I am sort of postponing it a bit due to my limited Gigs quota for the month  :tickedoff: ... a lot of the quota got chewed up when we got my sons laptop back from the shop... it was doing anti-virus and Windows updates like mad.  Now that I have my own computer...it does its own updates and all of that takes a chunk out of the quota  :'( so I feel a little down about that.  This might also cause me not to be able to watch the upcoming class.  :pullhair: However, in the mean time I need to finish my portraits eye...just need to add lashes and brow...then will attempt another watercolour to keep me going.  I might have to concider getting my own quota for the internet sometime  :faint:  :crazy2:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Karen on January 20, 2012, 09:58:19 AM
My cottage is having trouble standing up straight. 
I had trouble with the end of the replay so I missed the finishing details and i didn't have your picture Dennis. It's good looking at other people's cottages - it shows me a lot of things i missed. Nice work everybody!

(This is the second time I've tried to post this so it might turn up somewhere else)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maryna on January 20, 2012, 10:33:47 AM
 :sweat: looking at everyone elses cottages, think I might have to give mine another try.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 20, 2012, 10:59:13 AM
Karen, you did well considering, just the room extension is leaning a bit too low down. Other than that  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Helenty on January 20, 2012, 11:03:50 AM
All you girls have done a great job on your cottages, i still have not started mine yet i think maybe Monday it seems to be the best day for me.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 20, 2012, 02:17:00 PM
Here's my attempt at the tonal painting. 

I'll try to do better on another one, just don't like it! 

I didn't manage to get the negative painting in on the trees on the right side and I kind of got carried away with that big tree.   :2funny:

I love what I see everyone doing.   :clap: :clap: :clap:

                                                     
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on January 20, 2012, 02:25:08 PM
Well I guess I need a lot of experience.   :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Nina
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on January 20, 2012, 02:48:20 PM
 :clap:  :clap: Karen and Lillian.

Nina, I'm with you.  Haven't done mine, yet.  Hopefully, I will get to it today.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maryna on January 20, 2012, 03:05:04 PM
Lillian, yours look good!  :)

Watercolours is not as easy as it looks
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 20, 2012, 05:39:18 PM
Lilllian, you got everything else absolutely right except, as you say, you made a tree in a tree :whistle:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 20, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
 Dennis  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:     :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on January 21, 2012, 08:26:49 AM
Splendid work everyone!  :clap:  :clap:  Can't wait until I can join in. Keep it up, w/c is not the easiest medium by far and you are all making a banner job of it. This is reeeaaaaallly exciting stuff.  :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on January 21, 2012, 08:55:39 AM
 :heeha: WOW, I'm truly impressed with all the tonal paintings... awesome job everyone!  You can be proud of your work. ;)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on January 21, 2012, 02:33:27 PM
Lilllian,
I think you have a very interesting painting. Yours is unique. How many can say they have a tree inside of a tree. :2funny: :2funny: I think everyone did a very good job on their paintings.
Nina  :hug:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: nolan on January 21, 2012, 07:51:09 PM
Lillian, the tree inside the tree has just added some extra perspective into the painting. O0

Well done everybody :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 21, 2012, 09:38:00 PM
Thanks for your kind remarks Nina and Nolan.   :thankyou:

I had fun painting it.  Our furnace keeps our house nice and cosy but the dry air tends to dry my puddles of paint. 

Perhaps I'll see about getting a humidifier to put in the room.  I'll add it to my wish list.   :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on January 21, 2012, 11:16:31 PM
Dennis,

Having a slight hearing deficit ( MY  wife says "Deafer than a post"  :o :o)  I do not always catch the name of the color you are using.  Could you label the pan paints the same way you have labeled the Tubes in the "pill boxes"?

For those of us who are "deef" , I think it might help

Thanks
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on January 21, 2012, 11:34:41 PM
Karen-> I love your trees! :clap: :clap:

Lillian->  the shading in the clouds and the hill side on the left. :yippee: I hope I can do so good

I also agree with Nolan, the added tree on the right ( to me) adds an increased sense of depth.

O.K. So now I got to go  :painting: the tonal cottage !!  The pressure, the pressure,!! such competition!!!
Joking aside,  Thank you all for sharing your work, It inspires me  :flowers:

P.S.  Did a tonal sketch for my next cosmos, will post later for suggestions.

Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 21, 2012, 11:36:45 PM
Lillian, my apologies - I just could not resist that remark :) There's nothing wrong with the trees. If I remember I will show you tomorrow how to keep those puddles from drying out too quickly - with a very fine mist spray.

Brian - will do my best to help you and others out.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: sapphirelynn on January 22, 2012, 04:47:59 AM
   Here is my tonal painting.  I had been given some WC paper a while back so I used it for this excercise.  What a mistake, you could not blot it or move the paint around one tiny bit.  I had even stretched the paper but it buckled terribly. :tickedoff:   What to do?  So as it was only an excercise and I had nothing to lose I thought, and 'brilliantly' I might add! Why not Iron it.  So I put the iron on to steam and ironed both sides! :pray:  :sweat:  Came out flat as could be!!! :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Kelley on January 22, 2012, 05:41:11 AM
 O0 clever sapphirelynn.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 22, 2012, 05:56:30 AM
I can't really fault this painting at all - well done  :clap: :clap: :clap:

From your description you were give a very thin or lightweight watercolour paper for it to buckle so much. For interest sake what were the specifics of the paper?

I really like your ingenuity  ;D O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: sapphirelynn on January 22, 2012, 06:55:10 AM
Thanks guys, Dennis I just now looked at it and it was 120# Rough surface. Perhaps the rough surface was why I could not even blot and it looked grainy...think I will stick to 140# smooth till I learn more :)  really enjoying your classes... hugs Lynn
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on January 22, 2012, 11:49:12 AM
Sapphirelynn ... wouldn't even have known you had problems with the paper etc... because your painting look fantastic  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 22, 2012, 01:24:55 PM
No, not the slightest sign that you had a problem with the paper, Sapphirelynn.  Nice job on your painting!  :clap: :clap:

Yes, I have heard of ironing the paper if it buckles but I've never tried it.  I'm glad it worked for you.   O0 

Once I did a painting that I thought was reasonably good, (rare).  Even though I used 140lb cold press, it buckled terribly.  I considered ironing the paper, but ended up pressing the paper under heavy books which worked. 

I was told that if it is still damp, not to leave it there too long in case of mildew. 
I wasn't told how to go about doing this though, but this worked for me.--

I moistened my painting on the back side so it was evenly damp.  I have heard that this alone will help to smooth the paper out but in this case it didn't do it for me, so here's what I did and it worked.

On an old plastic tablecloth, I laid a failed watercolor painting (absorbent) wrong side up, then laid my damp and buckled painting on it right side up, then smoothed plastic wrap over it, then put heavy books on top. 

(The plastic wrap between the painting and the books prevented dampness from transferring to the to the books which could do damage to both the painting and the books.) 

I uncovered it for a while everyday to give it air.  The first couple of days when I took the painting out to get some air, I could see it was starting to buckle again.  It was still damp, so I repeated the process.  After a few days, it was completely dry and flat.

Next time, if I run into the problem, I'll try ironing it.  It sounds like a quicker process.

I'm wondering, sapphirelynn, what surface did you iron your painting on?

Dennis, do you have any other solutions to the buckling problem?
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on January 22, 2012, 04:49:02 PM
Sapphirelynn,  Terrific! Both your painting and wrinkle remover idea.   :clap:
Now, if we could just come up with  such a quick and easy wrinkle remover we could use on ourselves!!!!  :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maryna on January 22, 2012, 05:23:24 PM
 :2funny: botox??
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on January 22, 2012, 05:29:07 PM
I guess I should have added "cheap!"  ;)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: sapphirelynn on January 22, 2012, 06:08:42 PM
Thanks Leana, it was hard to paint on as well, had to keep mopping up the puddles!
Lillian all I did was lay it down on a towel and I ironed the back.  Then I took a chance and tried a corner on the front then ironed it all front and back.  It was bone dry before I tried it.  The wrinkles showed up in the photo as well :tickedoff:  It looked like it was ready for the garbage and as I did not feel like painting it again I thought, Nothing ventured, nothing gained so what the heck.  Seeing as we are all learning here I thought I would share my crazy idea, it was fast and easy...go figure
I agree if only it was that easy for our own buckled parts  :D
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 22, 2012, 06:22:49 PM
Great!    O0

I could really use something for my 'buckled parts', Sapphirelyn, but I think I'll reserve this technique for my artwork.   :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: O-kami on January 22, 2012, 10:29:27 PM
I am watching the live lessons and then downloading the replay.  Here is my attempt at the Tonal.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/6744302603_1081a3e666.jpg)

You can also see on my blog: http://ahiddenartist.blogspot.com/2012/01/tonal-study.html (http://ahiddenartist.blogspot.com/2012/01/tonal-study.html)

Julie
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 22, 2012, 10:54:15 PM
Hi Julie, I really like your tonal painting.   :clap: :clap:

You have great contrast giving wonderful sunlight effects. 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on January 23, 2012, 01:03:59 AM
sapphirelynn

I"m impressed with both the painting ( the clouds in particular)  and the ironing

As for the OFF TOPIC discussion about removing the beauty marks of experience..... I, as a male, shall remain :-X silent!  ( My Moma didn't raise no  :idiot2: fool!)

O-kami.

I like your tree line behind the cottage

Regards
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 23, 2012, 01:11:10 AM
This is what is so encouraging to both Nolan and I, when we see just how many there are who are working diligently at the lessons we have been providing. It inspires us to carry on helping others who are trying their best to become better artists.

 :thankyou: all. :clap: :clap: :clap: You are all wonderful  O0 :smitten:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maryna on January 23, 2012, 04:34:27 AM
 8) like your blog Julie - very nice!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: sapphirelynn on January 23, 2012, 05:15:27 PM
thanks Eftpower, your Moma obviously raised a 'diplomat', smart man  ;)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Helenty on January 24, 2012, 04:25:27 AM
Have at last done my painting , hope it comes up okay.I have looked at the rest and they all come up great.I did the painting a little better this time not enough in the shrubs under the trees in the first painting.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on January 24, 2012, 04:35:31 AM
 :clap:  :clap:  Great job, Helen!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maryna on January 24, 2012, 05:45:18 AM
 :clap: nice.

I just have to ask, isn't there something missing underneath the trees?
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Helenty on January 24, 2012, 07:42:41 AM
I put a second photo up with the shrubs done better i hope.Thanks for pointing it out Maryan or i would not have noticed. :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maryna on January 24, 2012, 10:38:09 AM
 O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 24, 2012, 02:02:34 PM
Very nice, Helen,   :clap: :clap: :clap:

Dennis will be encouraged to see you practicing so diligently.   :angel:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 24, 2012, 04:17:59 PM
Very nice painting indeed  :clap: :clap: :clap: Only comment is about the doorway in the add-on. It is in the shadow side and the white area should be toned down to suit. Do that and the painting will be  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lyndy on January 24, 2012, 05:14:10 PM
Here's my corrected one with darker doors in the shade. Hope this is better  :sweat:  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 24, 2012, 06:00:36 PM
Lindy, it looks great to me.  Of course I'll let Dennis be the final judge.

 :clap: :clap: :clap: Congratulations on getting the negative painting in for the tree trunks on the right.  I didn't manage to do that, maybe next time.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on January 24, 2012, 08:39:30 PM
Awesome, you are all on such a roll with the watercolours, you are rocking the boat.  :clap: :clap: :clap: Your paintings truly look awesome guys/gals... ... I truly have some serious catching up to do.  ???
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Karen on January 24, 2012, 09:47:45 PM
Lyndy, i like the neat hard edged look of your painting.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Bhavna on January 25, 2012, 12:20:35 AM
Here is my lesson-2 tonal painting
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 25, 2012, 12:37:06 AM
Lyndy and Bhavna  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 25, 2012, 02:23:32 AM
There you go Bhavna,  O0 from Dennis.   O0 from me too!   :1hug:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on January 25, 2012, 02:40:47 AM
 O.K NOW that I have seen all your paintings, I will hide mine in the back of the closet and do it all over again :( :(
4 hours in the studio was a good learning experience, and having seen what "Ya'all" have done. I got more to learn

And then trying to paint along with Nolan today......You can turn these things over and start again, right?

Seriously, I am learning a great deal, and after I get time to do my second paintings I will post for evaluation. In the meantime I am learning a great deal from each of you that share your efforts,  :thankyou: :thankyou: to all of you

Regards
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: erika on January 25, 2012, 03:50:53 AM
Hi Brian, know exactly what you're talking about as I also tried painting along with Nolan today... and all I have to show is an ummmm egg??... in the sky??  Acrylics are sooooo hard!!  Oils are my friend  :smitten:

Back to the  :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lyndy on January 26, 2012, 01:21:07 PM
Thank you.   :thankyou:    All the paintings look good   O0 :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maria Canino on January 26, 2012, 07:23:44 PM
Dennis,
I finally got to post my work but the image is not clear... any specific tips on how to develop a better take?
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on January 26, 2012, 08:28:20 PM
Bhavna ...  :clap: :clap: :clap: well done on your tonal painting  O0

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on January 29, 2012, 02:59:18 AM
Here are the 3 Tonal exercises I have done ( so far :P alot more to do :confused:)

Here is the 1st effort, Had problems with getting the "greys" mixed, Trying to work too fast.. IE. keeping up w/ Dennis  :'( 

Here is # 2  A couple of things 1) The dark mass at the bottom left started out to be a small bush..Did not work..Tried to lighten it up enough to redo..Bad Idea :tickedoff:  just got worse, so did the best I could, which seemed to be to paint a dark bush and hope :D

2) the TALL tree mass at the right end of the cabin..Got called for dinner, did a couple of quick brush strokes  to finish off......went to eat... came back and found a  perfect "GRIM REAPER" where I left a tree!!!   and after the fiasco in the lower left... The tree just got larger :D :D

This is a free hand "tonal" sketch in preparation for a second cosmos painting.  Hopefully I learned some things from Dennis's class

Please feel free to critique Suggestions on how to improve are very, very welcome!!

The lower left flower would need to be redone. I have exaggerated the dark at the very top and I'm not sure about using  the Heart Shaped darker tone to direct the eye back to the center of interest
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               x

Thanks in advance for any and all comments
Regards
Brian

"Still looking for a bandaid :yippee:" 


Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Bhavna on January 29, 2012, 03:54:23 AM
Thank you. Paintbasket.com rocks…. :clap: :clap: :clap: I am getting addicted......
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 29, 2012, 06:47:35 AM
Brian, I'm surprised that you got that far in trying to keep up with me - very good for the effort  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Obviously the second one is streets ahead - can see the definite difference  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Tony (ASM) on January 29, 2012, 09:24:12 AM
I've really enjoyed reading through all this thread. It's been a privilege to hear and see how people are getting on with this challenge.
I have noticed self self-criticism  by some of you perfectionist so, I'll start a separate thread on this. (It's quite natural!) 
I'd like to congratulate you all on a great job and, thanks for sharing your artworks, thoughts & experience.  :clap:  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: O-kami on January 29, 2012, 06:20:43 PM
8) like your blog Julie - very nice!

Thanks Maryna and thanks to everyone for all the encouraging comments :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 29, 2012, 06:38:04 PM
 :congrats: Brian!!!  Yup, you're definitely making progress!!!   :yippee:

...so glad you posted!

See you real soon in the class.   :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on January 30, 2012, 08:05:52 PM
Brian  :heeha:  :clap: :clap: :clap: nicely done... the second one is my fav. You did great...keep going  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Karen on January 30, 2012, 09:35:17 PM
I'm a bit behind here but brian your cottages look 'painterly' to me.  Your cosmos look good to paint and It's probably too late but don't forget the tiny shadows on the petals from the centres
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on January 31, 2012, 03:18:41 PM
Thanks everyone! one of the things that makes this form so important to me is the sense of community and support we give each other.. I sense i am not alone in being overly hard on self when "looking" at / "judging"  my own  work.  :thankyou: :hug:

Karen:   your comment is not too late  and I am very grateful for it

"Your cosmos look good to paint and It's probably too late but don't forget the tiny shadows on the petals from the centres" 

With out your comment , I would have missed that.  :thankyou: :thankyou:

Regards to all
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: mtmeade1 on February 01, 2012, 08:51:16 PM
Hello everyone.  :thankyou:  A big THANK YOU to Dennis for hosting these classes.  I was unable to attend all but the last class and I just loved it!! :smitten:   I have been studying the replay videos however and I have completed Lesson #2.  So without further ado here is the final tonal painting.  This is my very first attempt at a tonal painting.  I have completed tonal drawings in the past but never a painting until now.  It was very exciting :D   All opinions are greatly appreciated so don't hold back :2funny:

Thanks!!! 
Sincerely,


Maria.

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on February 01, 2012, 09:38:08 PM
 :bigwelcome: Welcome Maria   :yippee:  This is a great painting, the only thing I see that's a bit bothersome is the closest tree, just seems to have too many branches in the head. Other than that, super job. Glad you jumped in to the fray, look forward to many more.   :clap:  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on February 01, 2012, 09:42:07 PM
 :bigwelcome: Good job Maria. I like your building.  O0
Nina
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on February 01, 2012, 11:07:14 PM
 :welcome: Maria. ( I think you are Maria # 2!Hope we can keep you straight!) You will love it here!

You have done a fantastic job on your tonal painting. :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: mtmeade1 on February 02, 2012, 12:48:26 AM
Thanks ladies. I appreciate the feedback greatly.  :)
You're right Val, now that I look closer I believe I got a bit carried away with the scoring  :2funny:   
 :thankyou:  I'm glad you like it!  :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on February 02, 2012, 01:12:12 AM
Maria,  :welcome: to the Paint Basket and the posting of your tonal painting. It is very well done and and apart from a few very minor details you have done exactly what I wanted out of the painting exercise.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: mtmeade1 on February 02, 2012, 01:17:39 AM
 :thankyou:  so much Dennis!!  I thoroughly enjoy your classes.  I hope to see more of the free classes in the future. Economy is not so good at my house yet so unfortunately I'm limited to the free classes for now.  However, I hope that changes soon because I can see they are well worth the money :clap: :clap: :yippee:


I very much appreciate you taking the time to look at my painting.  I hope the have the others up soon as well. :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on February 02, 2012, 02:16:12 AM
 :welcome: to Paintbasket, Maria.

 :congrats: for already posting a painting here!

Nice work on your first ever tonal painting!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on February 02, 2012, 11:28:12 AM
 Maria...:clap:  :clap: :clap: on your  :painting: Love the buildings
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Maryna on February 02, 2012, 12:35:45 PM
Wow very very nice  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: nolan on February 02, 2012, 06:51:21 PM
:bigwelcome: to the site Maria great to have you join our family :clap:
You have done a superb job with your tonal study - I hope we will get to see the rest of your paintings from the course as well as others you do afterwards - whether they are from our tuts or not O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: mtmeade1 on February 02, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
Thank you Nolan!!  :thankyou:  You all have made me feel so very welcome.  I can't thank you all enough!!  :-)

With regard to posting additional paintings, absolutely!!!  :yippee: [size=78%] I can't wait to finish the Lesson #1 painting of the Cosmos flowers.  They are quite beautiful.  [/size]

[size=78%]In addition, I have hundreds of pictures I would love to upload for free reference photos.  I got a brand new sony cyber-shot for Christmas and have just been snapping tons of photos for reference pics.  Everything from skies and landscapes to birds and flowers and just whatever catches my eye.  I have close-ups of water dew droplets on Cedar Tree foliage that  are really cool.  I will save that for a different forum though.[/size]

Again, Thanks to All of you :clap: [size=78%] who contribute to this site and its contents.  [/size]
[size=78%]I just love it!!  [/size] :smitten:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on February 04, 2012, 04:09:11 PM
Had a hectic week and truly could not get any painting done... however, I am all alone today... the men has gone to Killarney - motor racing... So I told them I am taking today for myself... did my tonal painting.

I think there are enough cauliflowers in there to make a cauliflower and cheese sauce dish  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:, none the less... got it done :whistle:

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: mtmeade1 on February 04, 2012, 05:48:03 PM
Leana, your painting is just what it's supposed to be.  I don't see too many cauliflowers and the ones that are there, well, you can take a damp brush and just soften the edges of the cauliflower to take the hard edge away.  All said, I think it's just wonderful.  BRAVO!!  :yippee:     don't be so hard on yourself, you really did a fantastic job!!   :painting:


I'm going to try and finish the Cosmos painting today.  I took my masking fluid off yesterday but didn't have time to finish.  Today is a rainy day here in South Carolina, USA  so I should be able to finish it today. 


Truly, your tonal painting is fabulous.  Remember no one is perfect!!  :clap: :clap: :clap:


Maria.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on February 04, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
Leana, I think you did a very nice job on your tonal painting.   :clap: :clap:  See how the sun is shining on the building?

Hmmmm cauliflour and cheese dish, huh?  I'll be right over!   :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on February 04, 2012, 07:21:41 PM
Aww,  :thankyou: Maria and Lillian... I truly appreciate your feedback.

Lillian>  ooo yes... very yummy... especially when you mix cauliflower and broccoli...pour over the cheese sauce and grate cheese on top...in the oven...  :licklips: my mouth is watering now.  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on February 04, 2012, 09:32:36 PM
Did you know that professional artist sometimes deliberately cause cauliflowers to happen for special effects? I have some in my paintings and because they were deliberately placed they are not easily noticed as such. What I am trying to say is that mistakes in one place are not mistakes in other places  :confused: I've used them to form shrubs and bushes in the fields, for example - just used in a controlled way.

Leana, you tonal painting may not be exactly as mine, but, looking at the tonal study I find it a very pleasing one indeed.

A Note to all: Remember a tonal painting is a tonal study to see if the balance between the lights and the darks are in harmony so that the final colour painting will work as planned and be pleasing to the viewer.

So far all the tonal paintings posted fit this description. I am more than pleased with all of them. It's technique I'm after, not total accuracy  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on February 05, 2012, 07:42:07 AM
 :1hug:  :thankyou: Dennis
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on February 05, 2012, 05:58:29 PM
Leana, I very often do a tonal exercise before I start a painting (helps limber up the muscles!   :jk:  ) I just pick a colour and do a small painting. I find it really helps me when it comes to deepening colours throughout my main painting....also gives me extra confidence to push ahead.
Yours is very well done, it takes you through the range from almost white to dark shadow...exactly as it should!
 :clap:   :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on February 05, 2012, 08:43:23 PM
Aww Val  :1hug:  :thankyou: ...
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: nolan on February 06, 2012, 06:55:56 PM
looks great Leana, I don't see the cauliflowers, I see a lovely tonal painting :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: olivia power on February 06, 2012, 10:34:17 PM
Leana, your tonal painting is lovely, like you was offline for a few days. Have just caught up with paintbasket, you guys put me to shame with all the lovely paintings you've done.  Well done all.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on February 07, 2012, 08:23:34 AM
 :thankyou: Nolan  :1hug: greatly appreciated  ;D

C...    :thankyou: ... yes, loosing out on a few days...and then to try and catch up...is a task of its own  ;D
Title: Lesson 2 - Tonal Painting
Post by: Maria Canino on February 26, 2012, 04:05:50 PM
Discovering tonal and chroma qualities.
Learning the power of shadows.
Finding a constructive use for my cancelled credit cards
Not happy with the end result but I am persistent, will get better with time. :painting:
 :thankyou: Dennis for your indefatigable dedication  to this course.
Title: Re: Lesson 2 - Tonal Painting
Post by: Val on February 26, 2012, 04:40:43 PM
 :wave: Maria, I think you have done marvelously.  :clap: You have achieved the point of the exercise, which was to convey the various tones/values. You may not be thrilled with the picture as a whole, but it is still a successful accomplishment. Well done.  :yippee:
This is why I still go back and muck about painting tonal exercises just for fun. Each time I gain a little more control... and it does help with the composition as well!  ;D

I just spent 3 hours and managed to see almost half of the Notan video .... still hoping for the class today.  :pray:
Title: Re: Lesson 2 - Tonal Painting
Post by: Maria Canino on February 26, 2012, 04:42:22 PM
 :thankyou: Val, I needed that.

Maria  :painting:
Title: Re: Lesson 2 - Tonal Painting
Post by: claude on February 26, 2012, 05:21:43 PM
Maria, amazing, had I done that, I'd still be in the watercolor class. Bravo! Bravissimo!  :yippee:
Title: Re: Lesson 2 - Tonal Painting
Post by: Tony (ASM) on February 26, 2012, 06:00:46 PM
Looks good to me Maria  :clap: Keep on forward kid ;)
Title: Re: Lesson 2 - Tonal Painting
Post by: Lillian on February 26, 2012, 06:28:03 PM
Maria, I'm  :faint:-ing! 

You really are flooring me with your watercolors!  So perfect and you are just beginning.    :clap: :clap: :clap:

I can't wait to see what you come up with when you branch out on your own and come up with your own compositions.
Title: Re: Lesson 2 - Tonal Painting
Post by: C.Bodine on February 26, 2012, 06:57:33 PM
Maria, you have managed to make a lesson meant to be practice come out as a lovely painting! :clap: Great job!
Title: Re: Lesson 2 - Tonal Painting
Post by: dennis on February 26, 2012, 10:27:22 PM
You are doing just fine. Keep it up :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Dham on March 01, 2012, 10:40:52 PM
Trying to catch up !
Denise
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Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on March 02, 2012, 01:01:41 AM
Val, I'm happy you have internet where you are now.  You must be enjoying those replays.   :) 

Nice work on the tonal painting!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 02, 2012, 01:12:16 AM
 :oops:  That is not my picture Lillian.  That is Denise's, I just copied it into the thread for her. But thanks just the same...I like it too!  ;D
Only up to the beginning of the painting in #2 .... I keep trying!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on March 02, 2012, 01:45:59 AM
 :squareeyes:  been here too long!   :2funny:  That's the second time I did that today!   :idiot2:

Now I want to see more of what you do!

I love it when you have internet.  You're a real sunny spot here.   :1hug:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 02, 2012, 01:49:37 AM
Thanks Lillian  :1hug:  Haven't gotten much done what with tracking down parts, PB forum, ordering parts, desperately trying to see PB videos, PB forum, .......  might take a day off tomorrow and see what I can do.  ;D
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on March 02, 2012, 09:16:41 AM
Dham  :clap: :clap: :clap: nicely done  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 04, 2012, 11:03:08 AM
Hey, Dennis .... I finally got through the video!   :yippee:  Question: When you fixed the cauliflower on the shed, I am guessing that the paint was still fairly wet? I'm going to make a few and try feathering them out as you have done.
Now I get to  :painting: again!  :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on March 04, 2012, 03:23:46 PM
 :yippee:  :yippee:  :yippee:  Val!!! Finally! Happy :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 04, 2012, 06:41:14 PM
Thanks C.    I have my painting about 1/2 done. Too many interruptions...PLUS I should have some interesting effects as a little bit of salt water got into my paint mix!  :heeha: Looks ok though...I think.  :-\
Must stop painting now though...have to get ready for the lesson. Yup, I'm going to try again!  :hammer: That's just me trying to fix the internet!  :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on March 05, 2012, 02:52:40 AM
Dham

Very nicely done your washes are so smooth :envy:
Brian
Title: Re: Lesson 2 - Tonal Painting
Post by: eftpower1 on March 05, 2012, 03:27:08 AM
Maria!

I"m  :smitten: with your work!!

I'm also glad you're now part of this very supportive and honest crew of  :painting:

The honest feedback and support keeps me working to improve and remain gentle with my self when I do not think I'm growing fast enough.

 :thankyou: for sharing your work
Regards,
Brian
 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 05, 2012, 09:01:38 PM
The photo is not very good...boat's bouncing about as much as yesterday!   :boat:  :envy:  :2funny:
The saltwater doesn't seem to have damaged too much and I've managed to fix what I could. Anyway, at long last, here it is.  Whew  :sweat:

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on March 05, 2012, 09:06:52 PM
 :yippee:  :yippee:  :yippee:  :yippee:  Val! Finally able to get one finished!!!! I'm sure you're really excited! It looks very good to me! (I haven't tried the tonal painting, yet.) Now, onto the next torturous internet adventre! :-\
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on March 05, 2012, 09:10:10 PM
Val.   O0 O0 O0
NIna
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 05, 2012, 09:14:33 PM
 :thankyou: C.   My biggest problem with this one was the bouncing studio ... The foreground should not have looked quite so solid but my painting board kept coming up to meet the brush instead of the other way round  :2funny: Needless to say, lots of extra 'unintentional' brush strokes of various values...it was either try to blend them in , cover them up, or start again. Maybe another one later.....  :crazy2:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on March 06, 2012, 01:34:05 AM
Val!  Amazing you managed such a nice painting under those circumstances!   :congrats:  Nice work!

Wishing you calm waters, clear skies and great internet connection.   :1hug:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on March 06, 2012, 01:39:06 AM
Years back my brother and I spent a whole week on the water  :boat: my Mirror dingy in fairly strong winds. When I arrived at work after my vacation my desk used to come up and meet me very violently at times and it was impossible to walk in a straight line :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

Anyway, you have made a very nice painting in the circumstances. Remember that the light is coming from the right hand side and you have forgotten to complete the shadow on the extension wall. Also the shadows of the bushes should be to the right. Otherwise well done :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Rkymtnmary on March 06, 2012, 02:28:10 AM
Val -

I REALLY like it!!!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 06, 2012, 09:53:23 AM
Thanks everyone.
Dennis, Lloyd has that problem after being on the boat a few days and going ashore. I once waited for him by the men's and started getting worried. When he came out he said he had to hold on to the sink because he was still sailing!  :2funny:
I thought about the 'wrong way' shadows, was so sure I copied them from the notes. 'Cruiseheimers'!  :2funny: At least they covered up most of the bad stuff!  ;D
If I'm looking at the same wall you had in mind.....you might be right!  >:D   :oops:
We've had high winds for the past week, gets 'quite' rolly and choppy in the harbour. Unfortunately its also the only place we can get internet. (such as it is). Highest winds and seas are expected tomorrow, but it should calm down by next week. If I ever get used to painting while on the boat....I'll never be able to paint on land again!  :eek:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on March 06, 2012, 04:36:22 PM
Absolutely agree. You have to stop the brush from wandering all over the painting and adding lines where you don't want them  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on March 06, 2012, 09:18:27 PM
 :heeha: Nicely done Val  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on March 07, 2012, 03:38:54 AM
Val
your determination and stick to it ness is great example for me!!
 :thankyou: :thankyou:
"Wishing you SMOOTH SAILING!!
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 09, 2012, 08:34:28 AM
 :thankyou: Brian. I know once we get into the Rio Dulce things will be much more settled...but that is still a few months away. So I guess you'll all have to put up with my ravings and offbeat works for a while longer! (I can already hear the groans)  :2funny:
Title: lesson 2 tonal painting
Post by: jennylynn on March 11, 2012, 03:12:35 PM
well this is my version!!  of the tonal painting from lesson 2!  no good at doing trees!!!   although i enjoyed doing this lesson very much not perfect but hey practice practice makes perfect!  so they say  any comments gratefully received negative or positive!
  sorry couldnt put it on landscape .
Title: Re: lesson 2 tonal painting
Post by: Val on March 11, 2012, 03:42:46 PM
Never mind the trees....they'll be in another lesson I'm sure!  :heeha:
You've attained a good range of values, and that's what this lesson was all about. Well done!   :clap:
Title: Re: lesson 2 tonal painting
Post by: jennylynn on March 11, 2012, 03:52:59 PM
thankyou val  you sure make me feel better!!!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on March 11, 2012, 06:15:40 PM
Nice work on the tonal painting, Jennylynn.   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on March 11, 2012, 11:46:55 PM
Very good for a first try. The house has been rendered well.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Be very careful with the darks. Too many dark patches detract the eye away from the focal point (house).

Tone down the trees above the roof to push them further in the distance and then aslo tone down the grass in the foreground. When doing this compare them to my tonal painting in the lesson. The large clump of trees to the right are OK.

Do this and your drawing will reveal its full potential :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on March 12, 2012, 06:36:06 PM
Nicely done on your tonal painting JennyLynn  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on March 15, 2012, 05:29:42 PM
jennylynn
Thank you for posting.  and your washes look so even, Nice

Val.  :envy: :envy: :envy: MY retirement plans included lots of sailing AND painting One out of two ain't bad!!   ENJOY!!!

You tales of the "raging Main" brighten MY day!! Keep em coming!
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Gloria on April 16, 2012, 08:09:59 PM
Dennis, now I realize how steady your hands are. It always looks easy when you do it.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jennylynn on April 16, 2012, 08:38:02 PM
well done gloria your tonal painting looks great :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on April 16, 2012, 08:49:45 PM
Nice tonal painting Gloria.  :clap: :clap: :clap: As you can see, if the tonal ranges fit then it does not matter what the colours are - it will always be an acceptable painting.

Yes, I have exceptionally steady hands for my age. Used to do a lot of target competition shooting years ago. Suppose it was that training that helped me.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on April 16, 2012, 09:40:38 PM
Gloria, nice work on your tonal painting!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Gloria on April 16, 2012, 09:51:58 PM
Thanks Dennis,Jenny,Lillian. I was a bit discouraged in the beginning,  then I heard Dennis say "dont be afraid of making mistakes"so I persevered and carried on with it. Each painting is a challenge.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on April 17, 2012, 12:42:05 PM
Banner job Gloria   :clap:  You've done an excellent job on this, and I especially like the tree trunks. Well done.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on April 17, 2012, 01:07:15 PM
Nice job, Gloria! I agree with Val, love the trunks. 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Gloria on April 17, 2012, 01:21:58 PM
Thanks Val and C. Am enjoying this adventure in painting.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on April 17, 2012, 09:18:27 PM
Gloria

Just sitting here looking at my 1st attempt and looking at your painting.   Yours gets the blue ribbon!!! :envy:

Glad you are with us.......I think you are going to keep us on our toes :sweat: :sweat:

Regards
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Gloria on April 18, 2012, 12:53:05 AM
 :thankyou: Brian. You are progressing well also. I was working on clouds today and I see it is not as easy as it looks.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ImBatman on May 02, 2012, 03:48:32 AM
Hi everyone,

I did my second Watercolours painting on the weekend, and here it is...

I went with a brown shade rather than black, to get that old time photograph look.


Let me know if you have any recommendations.

Batman.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on May 02, 2012, 09:43:40 AM
I like that a lot, Batman!  I like the color and it has your own unique touch.   :clap: :clap: :clap:

It's not monochrome, but you have a variety of tonal ranges there and I think that's what Dennis was after.

I'll let Dennis be the judge here and speak for himself though.   :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: pnewcomer1 on May 02, 2012, 09:51:20 AM
you did a very good job Batman, I get it, I can see the sky, the trees the house the foreground and it looks good in brown.  :clap: :clap:
Penny
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Gloria on May 02, 2012, 04:37:59 PM
Excellent Batman. You are doing very well.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on May 02, 2012, 05:02:28 PM
 O0 O0 O0 O0 Nice job batman.
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jennylynn on May 02, 2012, 06:09:55 PM
nicely done batman well done!  looking forward to your next one   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on May 02, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Bman!
Nice range of tones dynamic , dramatic are the fist two words that come to mind when I saw your painting
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Leana on May 03, 2012, 07:55:10 AM
Batman... super job on your tonal painting!!! Love the colour you chose...definitely gives it that more antique look. Well done  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on May 03, 2012, 12:42:59 PM
Batman, your tonal painting is well done! O0 I also like the choice of color!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on May 03, 2012, 02:02:46 PM
Well done, just need to take note of the direction of your shadows .... I actually missed one on mine!  ;D
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ImBatman on May 04, 2012, 06:48:55 AM
Thanks for the nice comments. Unfortunalty the photo of it looks a lot darker than the actual painting. But it's only my second go - many more lessons ahead.

Batman.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Tony (ASM) on May 04, 2012, 07:40:21 AM
Iambatman, sorry it's taken me a while to give a comment.
I opened your painting and it reminded me of my brother who wanted to make a film when he was 14! He and his friend wanted a spooky one and, the place they wanted to make the film was just like your painting! The people who lived in the house didn't allow it though but, gave 'em some Halloween treats!
The tonal values of your art work are good. I screwed my eyes up to see the darkest and lightest then, opened 'em to see the mids.
Well done  :clap: :clap: I look forward to seeing your next ones.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on June 05, 2012, 10:07:03 PM
Finding the tonal ranges was a lot of work-even following along!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on June 05, 2012, 10:19:16 PM
Yes it was a lot of work, Newren, but I'm sure you learned a lot doing it, as I did.

You definitely have a range of tones there and you kept the white very well in the sunny side of the house.

I think you did a great job!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on June 05, 2012, 11:35:50 PM
Hi Natalie, all the hard work is worth it in the end as you have now come to realize the importance of tonal ranges in a normal colour painting   :clap: :clap: :clap: The make-up of the lights and darks are more important than the actual colour.

Just add the shadow to the little wall on the far left as this is in the shade. Otherwise well done  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on June 05, 2012, 11:56:20 PM
Nice job Natalie.  O0 O0 Stay encouraged.
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on June 10, 2012, 02:48:49 PM
Hi Natalie   :wave:  Very well done. I often go back to monochrome painting just as an exercise and it definately helps me stay focused on watching my light source. Also helps immensely with transition shading. Amazing the things we learn without realizing!   ;D
Marvelous job, you're well on your way.   :clap:   :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on June 11, 2012, 01:59:52 AM
Very nice job, Natalie! O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on June 11, 2012, 02:52:29 AM
Glad  you are "on board"   nice job !!
brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on June 16, 2012, 06:47:55 PM
Thanks everyone.  I appreciate the encouragement and comments.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on June 16, 2012, 07:31:15 PM
Now the tonal ranges are correct  :clap: :clap: :clap: Somehow did not notice the first time but soften down the hard lines on the roof quite a lot. They are just too eyecatching and should have been much thinner. Otherwise well done. :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on June 16, 2012, 09:50:07 PM
Natalie

here is a rose for posting the revision  :flowers:   :yippee:

Nice job

Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on June 16, 2012, 09:53:54 PM
 O0 Natalie!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Tony (ASM) on June 16, 2012, 10:09:10 PM
Hi Natalie!  :welcome: to Paint Basket ;)
It's good to read the comments about your tonal painting. I bet you've derived so much information that'll make your journey even better.
Well done and, keep up the progress.  O0  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Harald on June 29, 2012, 08:17:17 PM
Here comes my tonal painting at last.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Honeysuckle73 on June 29, 2012, 10:20:23 PM
  :congrats:  Harald, I really like your tonal painting.  It reminds me of the old linotypes. They are so beautiful, like your pic.  Your pic has really touched me.   :thankyou:  for the good feelings. 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on June 30, 2012, 12:40:57 AM
Another great painting, Harald!   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on June 30, 2012, 02:37:11 AM
Harald

It was worth the wait!!  very very nice!

brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on June 30, 2012, 07:04:30 AM
Well done, Harald  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Looks like everybody is starting to catch on to the techniques - I've not had to really comment on many mistakes lately - fantastic  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Harald on June 30, 2012, 12:34:08 PM
Many thanks for your encouraging comments. I really appreciate it. If you brag of the children thei will never stop thouw so here comes another one. Besides I think this is a very useful exercise.
Regards Harald
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on June 30, 2012, 12:41:07 PM
Harald, you did an excellent job on your tonal paintings! I especially like the second one! Very nice! O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on June 30, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
Wow!  Harald, very nice!!!   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on June 30, 2012, 02:16:43 PM
Harald

Yes,  and the other kids in the neighborhood will copy you!!!  :thankyou:

I'm going to do a couple of more of these BEFORE I do the color versions!!

 :thankyou:    :knuppel2:  I needed that! :2funny:

brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on July 01, 2012, 11:13:06 PM
Bang on Harald, this exercise is indeed very useful. It's one I love to do every now and again or if I'm having trouble with shading or values. Excellent practice.  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jennylynn on July 19, 2012, 03:04:18 PM
wow rita good job!!  so those paints did come in very handy then  :) 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on July 19, 2012, 05:16:13 PM
Rita, you've done a really good job getting all the tones in your painting.   :clap: :clap: :clap:

I like the hill on the left.  You really have the light shining in your picture!  Well done!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on July 20, 2012, 12:45:52 AM
Rita, I'm glad to see that you are settling down nicely and enjoying the site.

Very nice tonal painting  :clap: :clap: :clap:  Just be careful - there are a bit too many hard lines in the foreground which makes the ground very bumpy indeed. Soften down those edges. Also  merge the spots in the main tree on the right. Do this and there will be a great difference in the painting.  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: pnewcomer1 on July 20, 2012, 11:45:11 AM
Very nice Rita, great improvement  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Penny
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on July 20, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
Rita, I went back to look at the original.  ...a huge improvement!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
You did the changes remarkably well!

I'm glad you are enjoying the Paintbasket site.  It seems you are as excited as I am to be here.   :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on July 31, 2012, 04:43:34 AM
Rita,

You are a real asset to this group of  ;D :painting:  Your draftsmanship is already showing.   And a great big round of  :clap: :clap: :clap: for showing us your original and the improvements.   Very nice job!!!
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jonscoot on August 10, 2012, 08:45:54 PM
Been painting the last three evenings. This is actually the first ever landscape painting I ever done. I started the week out doing sketches and notans before starting. I did use the template for the paintings. So here we go;

Tuesday #1

Wednesday #2

Thursday #3

Some things I like, some I don't. From a distance #3 stands out better to my eye. This was a fun one to do.  :)

I just got to remember when to blend ( I forget and the paper drys) or to let dry throughly before adding more color

Of course this  I remember after painting!!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on August 11, 2012, 04:05:11 AM
Scott, the last one is definitely the best.  It just proves that practice makes perfect.   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jonscoot on August 11, 2012, 10:27:03 PM
Thanks Rita. Yea I found this a challenge too. I did learn a great deal by doing these. I'm looking foward to the next lesson. Good luck with the drawing course. Can't wait to see your drawings.  :yippee:

Lillian I agree, practice practice practice  :)

Thanks again guys  ;D
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on August 12, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
It just goes to show that the more you practice the better you become. The progress is clearly visible with each of the paintings  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jonscoot on August 12, 2012, 02:51:13 PM
Thanks Dennis. Your instructional videos are excellent  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jennylynn on August 12, 2012, 03:14:37 PM
scott your tonal painting no 3 is clearly the best, practice does make perfect O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 13, 2012, 01:55:34 PM
Super job Scott, you're coming along famously   :clap:   :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 20, 2012, 01:42:04 PM
This poor old soul was relegated to the UFO bin as well. Even after Dennis on earlier occasion had patiently showed how to 'fix' a w/c painting ... and I had my trusty 'magic eraser', I was still cowering in the corner afraid I would make it worse.   :-\  Well guess what? You really can remove and redo bits and pieces without destroying the good bits! What gave me the courage to try you might ask?   :confused:  The drawing course!!!   :clap:  Are you surprised? I was! If I could lay on the graphite, lift it, erase it, reshape it, and wash/glaze over (not sure those terms apply to graphite) and come out with acceptable drawings...I could see no reason why I once again couldn't apply those principles to my painting. You can! It really works!!!   :heeha:
Dennis, Nolan .... you are positively beyond brilliant at teaching this   :D   :crazy2:  twit to see the possibilities.   :2funny:
 :thankyou:

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: C.Bodine on August 20, 2012, 01:48:19 PM
Val, your tonal painting looks very good! O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 20, 2012, 02:08:26 PM
Thanks C.  It was a little nerve racking lifting the old shadows and moving them. Sure sounds simple enough! It really isn't that difficult...and I got to paint over the resulting cauliflower. I'm not so afraid of them anymore, not since Dennis created a couple in his waterfall and mountain paintings! If he can do it...why not me?  Oy.......   ::)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Tousabella on August 20, 2012, 04:00:29 PM
Wow, Val you are really doing a super job with your UFO's!!!  Good for you.   :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on August 20, 2012, 04:11:42 PM
Val, I don't know what you did to change it, but it looks very good to me.   :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on August 20, 2012, 05:06:59 PM
Scott and Val nice job on your tonal paintings.  O0 O0 :clap:
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 21, 2012, 03:34:02 AM
Should have done this before   :doh:  Here's the original and the original with changes applied.

Thanks everyone for your comments and support. I really do appreciate it.   :thankyou:


Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: anita on August 21, 2012, 05:54:16 PM
looking good Val  :clap:

Anita
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 21, 2012, 07:50:00 PM
  :thankyou:  Anita    :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: helena12 on August 25, 2012, 07:23:22 AM
Val,

your tonal painting looks very good. I like the delicate tones. And your cosmo (I know -  wrong thread) is so whirling with colours  O0. I love them. I stole your UFO-idea, by the way. Now I put all the tries that gave me too much headache in a folder until I am more experienced.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on August 25, 2012, 08:11:29 AM
Helena, it looks good to me  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jennylynn on August 25, 2012, 10:09:49 AM
val & helena both your paintings look good to me  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on August 25, 2012, 11:59:19 AM
Val looks good in a frame.  O0 O0
Helena I think you did a great job on your painting.  O0 O0
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: lynn p. on August 25, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Val and Helena.  These are wonderful.  I know nothing about watercolor but love these subtle pieces.  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on August 25, 2012, 12:09:03 PM
Val, your monochrome painting looks real nice in the frame.

Helena, no need to worry about the credit card trick not working for you, you did a real nice job on those treas just the same.  Well done.  Nice painting!

 :congrats:  both of you!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: helena12 on August 25, 2012, 06:02:38 PM
 :thankyou: all for your praise. This helps to carry on.  :not_worthy:

I found this task very interesting as I didn't have to think about colours. I tried to apply it on other paintings but haven't got very far because I want to do 1000 things on one time and can never decide whats most important. Possibly I should go over to lesson 3. But on the other hand it would be very interesting to make some tonal paintings from some of my holiday photos. And then there are the colour charts..... :hang:

I was surprised how much fun it was to mix greys. My favourite mixture was phthalo green with alizarin crimson.

Rita, the rocks are also on my agenda, as lesson 3 and 4. Lesson 5 I have already accomplished without knowing it  :yippee:  I also did the mountains. But why do you think you are behind when you are working like an art slave doing oils, acrylics and all these colour charts?
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 26, 2012, 01:14:55 AM
 :thankyou: Helena, you just never know what will come out sometimes. Glad you liked the outcome of the 2nd cosmos.

Your tonal painting looks great.   :clap:   :clap:  You have a good range and that was the whole point.   O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 26, 2012, 01:17:24 AM
 :thankyou:  Jennylynn, Nina, Lynn and Lillian. Having some internet problems today, so keeping it short...sort of!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jm7445 on August 26, 2012, 06:39:06 PM
  This is my tonal study, had fun doing it Denis, however I think I used to much crimson. Comments appreciated.  :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 26, 2012, 07:43:56 PM
The colour here isn't really the important thing. It is to get you to see the tonal ranges. You've done very well, I would perhaps darken the shadow areas a bit more to give it dimension.   :clap:   :clap:
Not to worry over the darks too much. I was very hesitant with my darks. Just practice and it will come.   O0

Good work, well done.   :clap:   :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on August 26, 2012, 07:51:48 PM
I agree, the extra crimson is no problem.  It's still a nice tonal painting.   :clap: :clap: :clap:

It indeed would help to give the shadow areas on the house another light wash to give more contrast.

I really like your trees!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jm7445 on August 27, 2012, 12:42:11 PM
 :) Thanks to everyone for your input. Your comments mean a lot. I enjoy doing the assignments and hope to improve as time goes by.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 27, 2012, 07:01:01 PM
JG, as long as you keep painting you can't help but improve.   O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on August 27, 2012, 08:41:40 PM
 :clap: Jersey Girl!  I like the crimson glowing through.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on August 28, 2012, 05:18:23 AM
The actual colour of the tonal painting is not an issue. The object of the lesson was to get to grips with tonal ranges - lights and darks and all the in betweens.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: polliwag on August 28, 2012, 11:55:55 PM
I did this tonal painting a few weeks ago.  Didn't think it was too good and meant to give it another try.  I think before I do that I will just post it ..probably when I go downstairs in the morning.. to see what you think.  Trying to remember how good or bad I think it is.  I know I did not like the boldness of the line created between the clouds and the sky.. anyway I'll wait to see what it needs, then maybe try it again.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Northbound on October 21, 2012, 09:21:31 PM
I some how missed this thread and posted my lesson in the wrong one.  Sorry sir!  I learned a lot from this lesson, even if it's not obvious by the painting.

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on October 21, 2012, 09:40:12 PM
Not to worry Faith. I do these tonal exercises quite often. Different subjects, different colour, sometimes just doodles. They really help get to know the colours and mixes.

Great job on this, now the fun starts!   :clap:   :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on October 21, 2012, 09:47:04 PM
 :clap: Faith!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on October 21, 2012, 10:31:10 PM
Lots of contrast there!  Brilliant, Faith.   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on October 21, 2012, 11:27:56 PM
Scott Helena, Jersy girl & faith   Good job all!!  :flowers: :flowers:

Val, thank you so much for the "before & After"   I do believe that showing them is a real help to all of us!!  I know for me , it encourages me to re-work those areas that are "off target" re the lession be ing taught.  I believe that is a more powerful learning experience than just repainting the entire painting ( I'm not saying that repainting the subject is less important, just that "proving" to myself that we can correct errors is a very important lession)

Againg, ggood job everybody :flowers: :flowers: :flowers:

Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on October 22, 2012, 07:51:50 AM
Northbound, a very nice tonal painting  :clap: :clap: :clap: The whole idea here is for you to get to grips with how the lights and the darks work together.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Northbound on October 22, 2012, 01:38:47 PM
Northbound, a very nice tonal painting  :clap: :clap: :clap: The whole idea here is for you to get to grips with how the lights and the darks work together.

I do believe I'm getting the idea, excellent exercise, thank you Dennis!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on November 13, 2012, 02:47:31 AM


Here is my rendition. Don't usually get this much done. Having the flu is good for something. Hey, Carolann, are you still with me? :confused:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on November 13, 2012, 05:03:12 AM
Nothing wrong with this tonal painting, Sarah  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on November 13, 2012, 03:18:57 PM
 :clap: Sarah!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Tony (ASM) on November 13, 2012, 04:39:06 PM
Very interesting to see peoples different interpretation of the tonal painting and, how good they are.
Well done all  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on November 13, 2012, 09:57:46 PM
Sarah,

Very nice even brush work :clap:

Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: polliwag on November 14, 2012, 08:28:17 PM
Beautiful, Sarah! :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on November 16, 2012, 10:08:46 PM
Good on you Sarah  :clap: :clap: Another step forward, you're coming along famously.  O0
Title: New Tonal painting
Post by: Sarah (arch) on November 17, 2012, 10:58:37 PM
I want to paint this little house I see on my walk every day. The light is always on the back side, so I thought a tonal painting would help to 'imagine ' a different lighting. So help on that score would be appreciated. Once I saw it in photo form. I realized I need some help in the drawing department! :blush:  Little dancing windows, wonky roof lines. Yikes! Can I blame it on the flu, or on the fact that I haven't taken Let's Draw? Placement needs a little change [size=78%]up too. Good thing this is a safe feeling place to post! [/size] :P
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on November 17, 2012, 11:06:07 PM
Sarah, you have captured the essence of the tonal painting perfectly. Congratulations  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: polliwag on November 17, 2012, 11:20:28 PM
So good, Sarah!! Wonderful :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on November 17, 2012, 11:29:40 PM
Very charming!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on November 18, 2012, 04:06:40 AM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou:  Dennis, Diane and Natalie. Now on to the actual painting.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on November 18, 2012, 01:11:06 PM
Sarah I love this little house. Would make a wonderful line and wash..... I'm starting to think in line and wash...  :eyesclosed: oh no...another addiction!  :faint:

(http://www.paintbasket.com/members/index.php?action-media;sa=media;in=5568;thumb)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on November 18, 2012, 05:18:38 PM
Ooooooooooo. A line and wash--hadn't thought of that. I loved your line and wash cottages. I've only used it with florals. Thanks, Val.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on November 19, 2012, 12:43:03 PM
 O0    :urwelcome:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: lynn p. on November 19, 2012, 01:00:36 PM
Really great Sarah--love this painting.  Don't know what a line and wash is but sounds like laundry.  Go for it so I can see!!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: polliwag on November 19, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
Yes lynn, me too!
 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on November 20, 2012, 03:04:39 AM
Don't know what a line and wash is but sounds like laundry.
:2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Peter. on January 22, 2013, 10:11:41 PM

Well I am so happy with the result! The first time I tried to mix the gray colour I got a muddy colour, the second time a reddish gray and finally got an amazing pure gray!!!  :smart:

Learned a lot from this lesson! I'm going to try panting  my local church and see what happens! 



Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: polliwag on January 22, 2013, 10:55:43 PM
Very nice, Peter!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Bhavna on January 23, 2013, 02:23:18 AM
Lovely painting Sarah :clap:
Good job Peter :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on January 23, 2013, 01:04:40 PM
Sarah awesome job on this one.  O0 O0 :clap:
Peter I think you did a very good job.  O0 O0
Ps. Peter  In case I didn't welcome you to Paint Basket.  :welcome: :welcome:
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on January 23, 2013, 01:44:59 PM
Great job on the color mixing Pete!  You really got a dark tone out of it!  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: lynn p. on January 23, 2013, 02:08:28 PM
Great Pete.  I really like the variation in value in this painting.  Makes for a very crisp look!!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Peter. on January 23, 2013, 07:18:40 PM
Thanks Dianne and Bhavna   ;D !
Thanks Nina    ;) ! Nice to meet you!
Thanks Natalie and lynn p.   :)   
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on January 24, 2013, 02:19:24 PM
 :clap: :clap:  Excellent Sarah and Pete.  I love the lights and the darks which you both have captured so well.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on January 27, 2013, 01:22:22 AM
Wow, Pete. Nice job! O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 27, 2013, 01:25:32 AM
I love your house, Sarah.   :clap: :clap: :clap:

Pete, well done.  You have lots of contrast going on there, makes it look like the sun is shining brightly.   O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Bev S. on February 26, 2013, 07:30:19 PM
Hi Dennis, Nolan, Everybody. . .  this is my rendition of Lesson 2, "Tonal Painting".
Going back to the basics and learning to walk before I try running!  ;D
 
This is a Tonal Painting I did in  Sepia, in 2012, before I found Paint Basket!  I'm kinda  :blush:  to show it but, here it is!
 

 
Please let me know what you think and where you feel I need to improve. I know it's full of run-backs, cauliflowers and other flubbs. . . . .I was trying really hard to paint along with Dennis and had to laugh when he said don't fiddle! It was as if he was watching me. . . .
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on February 26, 2013, 09:28:41 PM
 :clap: :clap:  Fantastic Roxy, all your angles are straight or should I say vertical.  Am still trying to get a small T-square but nobody in our area seems to have them.  I have asked my son-in-law to get one in the Toronto area for me.  Anyway, your buildings look spot on.  Very well done.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on February 26, 2013, 09:43:49 PM
Oooooooooooh--nice job, Roxy! I especially like your cottage and its shadows. I see no cauliflowers and backruns. :idea:  Hmmmm. Perhaps I should pop this up much bigger.  :detective:  Nah, let's leave well enough alone. Good job! :twothumbs:  Oh yes--I really like your sepia piece. Peaceful. Looks like Minnesota prairie!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on February 27, 2013, 02:15:09 AM
Roxy, both paintings are  O0 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on February 27, 2013, 02:39:20 AM
 :clap: Well done Pete and Roxy! :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: polliwag on February 27, 2013, 04:38:58 AM
Roxy, these are fabulous!!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Bev S. on February 27, 2013, 10:17:08 AM
 :thankyou:  Dennis. . . I am very happy to get your thumbs up on this "getting back to basics". . . should have done this long long ago. It was kinda fun trying to paint along with you - I am really hoping I can break my terrible habit of (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/178.gif)
 
 :thankyou: Patricia. . yep, gotta have one of those t-squares! I just remembered, quilting/sewing places sell them too.  Michaels had them once. I got mine at the dollar store.
 :thankyou: Sarah. . . now don't you go looking too hard at this. . . let's just leave it small! Okay?  Great job on yours BTW, and I love your little house - fabulous!  :flowers:
 :thankyou: Denise. . and thanks for reminding me to look at Pete's painting. . . .and oh by the way, how is the onion & spoon creation . . . :1hug: :2funny:
 :thankyou: Dianne. . . . you make me feel all warm & fuzzy  :blush:
 
Hi Pete. . . .nice version of the tonal painting! I like the brightness you have achieved. . .Good work!
 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on February 27, 2013, 06:04:46 PM

. . . .and oh by the way, how is the onion & spoon creation . . . :1hug: :2funny: 

 
Huh?, Onion and spoon creation? What onion and spoon creation :whistle: ? Hope you haven't been holding your breath!....
(oops,sorry, :offtopic: )
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 01, 2013, 11:50:13 AM
I seem to have missed a few here. :blush:    Let me just say well done everyone!  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on March 02, 2013, 01:24:46 PM
Nice job Roxy.  O0 O0
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Bev S. on March 02, 2013, 01:41:33 PM
 :thankyou: Nina
 :thankyou: Val
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on March 03, 2013, 03:16:59 PM
Roxy both paintings are great!!!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Bev S. on March 03, 2013, 05:50:57 PM
Thank you very much Natalie. . . . . I am quite enjoying the getting back to basics!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: pappy on March 07, 2013, 03:18:22 AM
This is the second tonal painting I did. I think I went to dark in some places.

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Bev S. on March 07, 2013, 11:37:06 AM
This is the second tonal painting I did. I think I went to dark in some places.

I don't really thing you did, remember, (Nolan must have told me this 10 times or more) you have to have the darks to make the lights pop. Wait and see what Dennis says. . . . Dennis knows all!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on March 07, 2013, 11:54:05 AM
 :clap:  Very nice Pappy.  It looks pretty good to me.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on March 07, 2013, 12:36:58 PM
Not too dark at all, pappy. Look at how the sun appears to be really shining on your cottage. It has a glow to it.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: pappy on March 07, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
Thanks for the nice comments everyone. I don't know, it seems like something is wrong I just can't tell what it is. I'll paint another one and see how it looks.
Title: Watercolour Lesson 2, Tonal ranges
Post by: somaiiehmr on March 08, 2013, 10:05:11 PM
Hi everyone,

Here it is my second watercolour painting, tonal ranges. It is most appreciated if you can comment on this to improve my painting.

Thank you,
Somayeh
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on March 09, 2013, 06:36:05 PM
Well done, Somaiiehmr, nothing wrong with your tonal ranges :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on March 09, 2013, 07:40:54 PM
 :clap: :clap:  Wow, Somayeh, Brilliant painting.  Good for you.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on March 09, 2013, 08:25:03 PM
Yes, Somaiiehmr, a nice painting. And I'm sorry, but nobody should be able to handle negative painting in their second painting, but look what you have done with that right grassy bank and tree trunks. Hmmm. She wants ways to improve her painting. :detective:  Nope, sorry. Can't find any. Guess you are ready to move on!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: somaiiehmr on March 10, 2013, 10:35:20 AM
Dear Dennis, Patricia and Sara, thank you very much for your lovely and encouraging comments. This gives me a very good incentive to move to lesson 3 :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Bev S. on March 10, 2013, 10:51:06 AM
 :clap: :clap: Oh my yes, Somai. . . .  you are ready for lesson 3!!! You go girl!!! :cheering:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: somaiiehmr on March 10, 2013, 04:24:49 PM
Thank you Roxy, it means a lot to me. :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 10, 2013, 05:44:58 PM
Looking forward to seeing it.  O0    :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: somaiiehmr on March 11, 2013, 02:19:06 PM
Thanks Val  :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on March 11, 2013, 06:08:04 PM
 :clap: Great job Somayeh!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: somaiiehmr on March 12, 2013, 12:09:33 AM
Thank you Natalie :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: eftpower1 on March 12, 2013, 04:29:36 AM
Just poped in for a moment

And you all of you did a better job then I did when I started... keep on  :painting:   and  :welcome: :welcome: :welcome:

Brian
 p.s. and better than i sometimes do today :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: somaiiehmr on March 13, 2013, 10:19:52 PM
Thanks Brian :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: cazza52 on March 24, 2013, 06:47:09 PM
I am on a roll today. :)

Here is my tonal landscape for lesson 2.


I almost gave up half way, but am glad I persevered. I chose sepia to give it an old fashioned photo type of effect.

Regards,

Carol
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: BeaSue on March 24, 2013, 08:18:48 PM
Well done, Carol. The sepia is a nice touch. I especially like your roof.

--Susan
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on March 24, 2013, 09:48:52 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Wow Carol, you are doing SO WELL.  Good for you.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: cazza52 on March 24, 2013, 10:36:21 PM
 :thankyou: ladies. I am really enjoying myself. I NEVER thought I would be able to paint with watercolours.

Regards,

Carol
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on March 25, 2013, 01:00:10 AM
I am learning not to second guess Dennis halfway through a lesson. My things always look awful at that point. That may be one of the biggest things we learn for him. The stuff that goes on under your final painting just 'ain't gonna be pretty' but it is the foundation for something that is much richer for having done it. This looks great.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on March 25, 2013, 01:05:23 AM
ooh, I love the light coming in from the right, they're casting some nice shadows...
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: cazza52 on March 25, 2013, 02:02:18 PM
 :thankyou: Sarah and Denise.

I trusted that it would come alright at the end. Although the background trees ended up a bit too round I think.

Regards,

Carol
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on March 30, 2013, 01:02:23 AM
Carol, you have grasped the idea of tonal ranges very nicely :clap: :clap: :clap:
Just tone down the very light surround colour of the right hand doorway. Remember that it is in the shadow and needs to be much darker than the door in the sunlight. O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Pebble on March 31, 2013, 09:02:14 AM
Strangely I found this more difficult than the cosmos flowers, however I still enjoyed it and I can see the reason for doing it. Another good lesson. Thank you.

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 31, 2013, 09:38:19 AM
Well done  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on March 31, 2013, 06:24:31 PM
 :clap: This looks really good! I like your house and especially the way you got the change in tones on your trees, landscape and bushes :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on March 31, 2013, 09:07:16 PM
Look at you just painting and posting away. Beautifully done.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Pebble on April 01, 2013, 10:00:06 AM
 :thankyou:  for your comments and encouragement they really are a big help  :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on April 01, 2013, 11:40:06 AM
 :clap: :clap:  Lovely tonal ranges Pebble, you are doing so well.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: mnk66 on April 01, 2013, 07:54:33 PM
Oh my god...

... monochromatic  :painting: and I will never be friends :hang: :thumbdown:

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on April 02, 2013, 02:05:00 AM
ha ha. Mike, there is NO problem here! nothing to worry about  :)
I understand how you feel though, when we see our own work it just looks dang ugly sometimes ;D 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on April 02, 2013, 03:24:31 AM
This was pretty complicated. But it was so exciting to me to learn how to start out light and keep building on that. I was (am) pretty much a 'one go at it' kind of painter. The more lessons I paint, the more hopeful I am that I will be able to instinctively layer my paintings. Well done. You mastered this tonal lesson.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Bev S. on April 02, 2013, 11:53:07 AM

I understand how you feel though, when we see our own work it just looks dang ugly sometimes ;D

Truer words were never spoken (written) !!!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on April 02, 2013, 05:02:17 PM
Not so bad Mike, you have good values, and the painting is recognizable...what more could you ask for? ......
Straight walls?  ::) Not without a square!  ;D

Well done.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on April 02, 2013, 09:30:14 PM
 O0 O0  Good job Mike.  Patricia
Title: Phew! Not that easy
Post by: Baya on April 04, 2013, 10:48:27 PM
I tried to paint Dennis's Abondoned Cottage today without using the template. The drawing was fine but I screwed up the painting right at the beginning when I started to paint the clouds. Unfortunately I couldn't correct the mess and continued to paint though, telling myself it's fine this is my first experience with watercolour -- the result was quite disappointing. To be honest I didn't really follow Dennis's instructions but I won't give up I'm going to give it a second try.

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on April 05, 2013, 12:58:33 AM
Baya, don't stress :) You still showed the grasp of the tonal effect, which is what I wanted you to see. :clap: :clap: :clap:
Do another one following the instructions and you will then reinforce the idea of tonal ranges in a painting - most important. O0

(PS I moved your post to the proper place)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Baya on April 05, 2013, 01:27:06 AM
Hi,

Thank you very much for the encouragement Dennis. I'll try to do my best next time. :)

Baya
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on April 05, 2013, 02:27:43 PM
 :clap:  Nice work Baya.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Baya on April 05, 2013, 08:16:53 PM
:clap:  Nice work Baya.  Patricia

Thanks happychappy really appreciate it. :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Baya on April 05, 2013, 08:20:16 PM
Baya, don't stress :) You still showed the grasp of the tonal effect, which is what I wanted you to see. :clap: :clap: :clap:
Do another one following the instructions and you will then reinforce the idea of tonal ranges in a painting - most important. O0

(PS I moved your post to the proper place)

Hi dennis,

I painted it again. I'd love to know what you think. I know still many mistakes.

Baya

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on April 06, 2013, 08:03:08 AM
Great improvement  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Baya on April 06, 2013, 08:20:09 AM
Great improvement  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Hi,

Practice makes perfect people say. I need to paint more to get better. :painting:  :painting:  :painting:
Thanks dennis for the feedback really appreciate :thankyou:

Baya
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on April 06, 2013, 01:07:13 PM
Woohoo! You got the thumbs up from Dennis! Here's one from me too. O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Baya on April 06, 2013, 02:12:34 PM
Woohoo! You got the thumbs up from Dennis! Here's one from me too. O0

Oh thanks a lot Sarah :blush:

Baya
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on April 06, 2013, 05:04:05 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:
         :twothumbs:
       
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Baya on April 06, 2013, 06:29:30 PM
 :thankyou: Denise320

Baya
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: doina on April 06, 2013, 07:27:14 PM
Well, it was not easy!  :sweat:  :sweat: Here is my rendition of this monochrome tonal painting!  :whistle:  :whistle: Doina

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on April 07, 2013, 02:35:29 AM
Returned to the beginning lessons (after my daffodil) to learn the techniques - this was an interesting exercise - not as easy to do as it looked on the video!

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on April 07, 2013, 06:28:27 AM
Doina and Sacgal. both painting are done well, think of them as black and white photographs  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on April 07, 2013, 06:35:40 PM
Doina and Sacgal - your houses turned out really well! I agree, this was a pretty hard one. It took me so long just to mix a decent color and when I finally did, I ran out before the painting was finished! Then, mixing that same color again was just ..... ugh :P
Learned a lot though ;)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: doina on April 07, 2013, 06:48:14 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis, I appreciate your comments. I followed up your advise and I framed the painting this morning. It is just beautiful. Thanks for all the lessons. I learned a lot.

Hi Denise, that happened to me. I started late in the day and I had to stop!  >:( Next morning I started again, the color a bit different than the one I started   :tickedoff:  Then my son and grand kids Skype-ed. Paint dried!  Then I started again, and so on  :crazy2: At the end I washed entire painting, lightly, with the last shade  :knuppel2: It improved  :yippee:  :yippee: Now I have it framed . I love it, Doina
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: pappy on April 07, 2013, 07:01:15 PM
Nice paintings..

I found doing other paintings using the tonal ranges helps a lot. Try doing the Cosmos flowers etc. and see how they come out. I even use different colors brown, blue etc. just too see how it looks.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on April 11, 2013, 08:17:59 PM
 O0 O0   Lovely tonal paintings Doina and Sacgal.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on April 11, 2013, 08:25:03 PM

Hi Denise, that happened to me. I started late in the day and I had to stop!  >:( Next morning I started again, the color a bit different than the one I started   :tickedoff:  Then my son and grand kids Skype-ed. Paint dried!  Then I started again, and so on  :crazy2: At the end I washed entire painting, lightly, with the last shade  :knuppel2: It improved  :yippee: :yippee: Now I have it framed . I love it, Doina

Well, if people only knew what actually goes into a painting sometimes! :2funny: 
That wash at the end is such a good idea, I'll have to remember that one. Happy painting.....
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Tammy on April 21, 2013, 02:42:54 AM
here is my version  :painting:

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on April 21, 2013, 02:53:15 AM
Nice. This was fun, wasn't it?
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Tammy on April 23, 2013, 12:28:14 AM
 :thankyou: Sarah :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: polliwag on April 27, 2013, 09:45:40 PM
Looks good, Tammy.  :clap: :clap: :clap: I did this last summer... don't think I really understood what I was doing.  Guess I should get it out and give it another try..

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jrhall036 on May 07, 2013, 02:36:42 PM
Here is my attempt:




This was not an easy lesson, but I did have a good time painting it!  :painting:  I really like the credit card technique for making the tree branches.  8)

Hugs,
Jani
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on May 07, 2013, 03:53:35 PM
Good job expressing the values Jani.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on May 07, 2013, 04:55:26 PM
Nice Tammy and Jani! I remember getting a little frustrated with this one. Getting the color to stay consistent was not easy and it made getting the tonal ranges correct more difficult.  Both of you have done a good job :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on May 07, 2013, 10:58:58 PM
 O0 O0  Nicely done Tammy and Jani.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jrhall036 on May 07, 2013, 11:07:29 PM
 :thankyou: Val, Denise, and Patricia! Your encouragement really means a lot to me! I just wish I had more time weekly to devote to painting. I've set aside Mondays from this point forward to work on my painting, and hopefully, I'll be able to add more days when my workload slows down a bit.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on May 10, 2013, 03:14:45 PM
Hi Jani-great job on the tonal ranges!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jrhall036 on May 10, 2013, 03:31:07 PM
 :thankyou: Natalie!  :1hug:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: doina on May 10, 2013, 04:33:41 PM
good job.  :clap: :clap: :clap: :flowers: :flowers: Doina
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sarah (arch) on May 10, 2013, 05:18:31 PM
Beautifully done!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jrhall036 on May 14, 2013, 02:52:45 AM
 :thankyou: Doina and Sarah!   :1hug:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: mark on June 03, 2013, 07:47:37 PM
A reference photo, my notan, and painting from lesson 2.

I had never heard of notans before, but I absolutely LOVE them! It's such a quick and easy way to establish a satisfying composition. I don't think I will do a painting without one from now on. Thanks for all the info Dennis!

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on June 03, 2013, 07:54:30 PM
Awesome, Mark :clap: :clap: :clap: Just look what you can do with Notans - you have fully grasped what they mean and what they can do. O0 Your tonal painting is excellent too :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on June 03, 2013, 09:20:21 PM
Brilliant Mark  O0    :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on June 03, 2013, 09:23:01 PM
 :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jrhall036 on June 03, 2013, 11:48:53 PM
Wonderful, Mark!  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on June 03, 2013, 11:55:47 PM
 O0 O0 O0 Mark
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on June 04, 2013, 12:02:54 AM
I haven't gotten in the habit of using notans, but Mark, it sure worked for you.
  :thankyou:  for showing us your process.  Your tonal painting is awesome!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: mark on June 04, 2013, 02:21:00 AM
Thanks guys!

I decided to do a coloured version of the painting this evening. The process felt incomplete without it.

Amazing the things you can get up to when you're avoiding cleaning the house...  :whistle:

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on June 04, 2013, 02:54:21 AM
Mark,

Very nice.  I like country scenes.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on June 04, 2013, 06:01:19 AM
A few distant sheep would really round off this beautiful painting :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on June 04, 2013, 12:19:26 PM
Very nice work Mark  O0 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jrhall036 on June 04, 2013, 12:46:57 PM
Awesome!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Tania on June 04, 2013, 12:48:08 PM
Both the tonal painting and the coloured one are wonderful! Good job! :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on June 04, 2013, 12:50:58 PM
Tania!  :heeha:        :bigwelcome: back!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Tania on June 04, 2013, 01:10:39 PM
Haha! Thanks, Val!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on June 05, 2013, 12:46:48 PM
 Looking good Mark.  O0 O0
Nina  :flowers: 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: polliwag on June 08, 2013, 12:47:34 AM
Mark, this is excellent... both the tonal painting and the colored version.  Congratulations on being named Artist of the Week!   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on June 08, 2013, 02:26:13 AM
 :congrats:  Mark!  Congratulations on being our Featured Artist this week!


Your tonal painting is worthy of the recognition.  Keep up the good work!   :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jennylynn on June 08, 2013, 07:17:50 AM
wow mark your tonal & coloured painting is awesome  :yippee:   you well deserve the featured artist of the week  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on June 08, 2013, 08:41:13 AM
 :congrats: :yippee: :congrats:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: njnjgirl on June 10, 2013, 12:56:52 PM
Mark, all I can say is  :congrats: O0 O0 :yippee: :yippee: !
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on June 10, 2013, 08:20:42 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Outstanding Mark.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Fencepost on July 19, 2013, 08:30:00 PM
Finally finished lesson 2. Sooooo much to learn.

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Ray3 on July 19, 2013, 08:39:21 PM
 Another good painting Judie your tonal tones are very good, your right there is a lot to take in but no rush just enjoy
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jrhall036 on July 19, 2013, 08:50:30 PM
Very nice, Judie!  :clap: :clap: :clap: I always felt that this was one of the most important watercolor lessons. If you're anything like me, you'll keeping referring back to this lesson over and over again when you're doing your other paintings/lessons.  Great job!!  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on July 19, 2013, 09:53:13 PM
This is a lesson I use over and over. I'll make small w/c sketch/compositions in monochrome, trying it in a different colour each time. It really helps to get a feel of what you can do with each colour. Also you can use left over paint to practice these little sketches.

Judie you've done a great job. Good range of values, shading looks good. Well done.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Fencepost on July 19, 2013, 11:07:21 PM
 :thankyou: Ray, Jani, and Val! I agree that this is an incredibly important lesson. I'm not thrilled with the painting...would change a lot if I were to redo it in future, which I might later...too anxious to move on at the moment. But I am very pleased with the learning process. :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on July 20, 2013, 02:08:18 AM
Well done, Judie :clap: :clap: :clap: Remember that it is the techniques that are the most important part of the painting.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Fencepost on July 20, 2013, 02:53:12 AM
A very humble  :thankyou:, Dennis.

But-but-but...you mean that it isn't all about seeing something interesting and letting it flow magically through the paintbrush onto paper?  You burst my bubble...sigh. On to techniques then. :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on July 20, 2013, 05:44:30 AM
Of course that is not what I meant. If you master the techniques you can virtually paint anything and you have grasped the tonal technique  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on July 20, 2013, 06:22:11 AM
This quote by the late Japanese printer and painter, Katsushika Hokusai, caught my attention:
 
"Only when you truly master technique will you cease to be a slave to it and be able to paint as you want to."
 
 :) Depending on my mood, this statement is either encouraging or frustrating :P
 
 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on July 20, 2013, 12:13:25 PM
"Only when you truly master technique will you cease to be a slave to it and be able to paint as you want to."

I love this Denise.  O0 So true, so true. This is why I keep coming back to the early lessons. Got to nail down those foundations!  :knuppel2:

For me....VALUES is one of the biggest. Without values...you have no depth perception.  :painting: :painting: :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jrhall036 on July 20, 2013, 01:23:48 PM
That is an EXCELLENT quote, Denise!  O0

Val, I, too, think that tonal values are the most important part of a painting. If you don't have them, the painting appears flat.

We get such great instruction here on PB!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on July 20, 2013, 04:33:58 PM
Glad you like the quote Val and Jani - now I'm thinking I'll do this tonal exercise again since I struggled with it the first time around - about a year ago .....
 
Great idea to go over earlier lessons Val and yes Jani - couldn't agree with you more - we get great instruction here on PB!! :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Fencepost on July 20, 2013, 05:23:56 PM
Wonderful quote, Denise!  :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on July 23, 2013, 01:20:44 AM
You definitely have good tonal ranges in your painting, Judie.  Very nice!   :clap: :clap: :clap:


Denise, how true!  Good quote.   :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: rainbowco on August 16, 2013, 01:18:50 PM
Dennis, thank you for introducing me to tonal values and the Nonan, both are valuable tools I will be using in the future.   :clap:

I posted my painting in my album, (could not understand how to post it here).

http://www.paintbasket.com/members/MGalleryItem.php?id=11068 (http://www.paintbasket.com/members/MGalleryItem.php?id=11068)




Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 16, 2013, 01:36:10 PM
Here you go rainbowco, to post in your reply...click on the title of the photo you want to post. Scroll down and you will see a 'BBC' code. Copy and paste that code complete as you see it (brackets and all!) in your reply box. To make sure it is working, you can click the 'preview' button and it will appear above the reply box..might have to scroll up a bit to see it. Hope this helps.


First off, just in case I've missed you....  :bigwelcome:    :wave:
Nicely done, looks as though you have got your values pretty well covered.  O0 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: rainbowco on August 16, 2013, 02:25:13 PM
Val, I am not happy with the tree area on the right, (as you face the painting), my eye goes right to that area They are a mess and distract from the painting, but before adding the much darker tone it was a blob of color. Any suggestions for that area?
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 16, 2013, 02:36:14 PM
You could try softening the edges around the top just a bit. Lift out a few lighter areas throughout. Would give a bit more definition inside and perhaps recede it a bit. Won't take much.  :gl:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on August 16, 2013, 03:29:24 PM
Rainbowco,

Welcome to the wonderful world of Paintbasket.com.  Your cottage painting is very nice.

You'll be amazed at how quickly you get better and better with all the advice you get from people here.

aloha

mea

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Fencepost on August 16, 2013, 10:16:42 PM
Very nice painting, Rainbowco!  :clap: A challenging lesson but a great deal of learning that is incredibly useful. You seem to have grasped it beautifully!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on August 16, 2013, 11:11:43 PM
 :welcome: Rainbowco to Paint Basket. Nice tonal painting indeed :clap: :clap: :clap:

Tonal sketches are normally made before a final painting is started as it give you a very good idea of just how the colour tones will work for best results. They are mostly planning sketches so, unless you are painting one as a final painting, don't worry too much about the smaller details.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on August 20, 2013, 12:41:25 PM
 :welcome:  to our Paint Basket family Rainbowco.  Your tonal ranges are very well done. Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on August 20, 2013, 12:48:35 PM
 :welcome: Rainbowco!  You're off to a good start on the water-colour lessons!  Well done!



Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jrhall036 on August 20, 2013, 04:05:34 PM
 :welcome: to Paint Basket, Rainbowco!  Can't believe I missed your post. Shame on me!! Nonetheless, you have done a wonderful job on your tonal painting. This is such an important lesson, and you have painted it beautifully!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: cyril on September 15, 2013, 04:56:25 PM
Hi  :D

Critical comments most welcome. :D



 regards
 cyril
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on September 15, 2013, 05:01:24 PM
Cyril, you have captured the feeling of the tonal ranges very nicely :clap: :clap: :clap:
However, be careful of keeping the verticals upright - you have the add-on building falling away from the main building.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: cyril on September 15, 2013, 05:40:54 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis for the comments... :D  i will take note of this...

 :D
regards,
 cyril
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jrhall036 on September 15, 2013, 06:13:43 PM
Your tonal ranges are wonderful, Cyril!! Great job!!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Fencepost on September 15, 2013, 06:42:47 PM
Excellent tonal ranges, Cyril. Nice job! :clap: I also noticed the "falling away", it almost feels like a view through a fisheye lens...interesting effect!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on September 15, 2013, 10:19:48 PM
Well done Cyril.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: polliwag on September 16, 2013, 01:13:07 AM
Nice tonal, Judie!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: polliwag on September 16, 2013, 01:17:55 AM
 Cyril. Great tones!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on September 16, 2013, 11:46:13 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Wonderful tonal ranges Cyril.  Good for you.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on September 17, 2013, 12:59:10 PM
Judie you did good.  O0 O0
Rainbowco nice job.  O0 O0
Cyril looking good.  O0 O0
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Ray3 on September 17, 2013, 09:17:09 PM
Well done Cyril your work is now producing results keep it up. Ray
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: scouserl41 on October 06, 2013, 08:36:43 PM
I like it Marion, nice range of tones and very well drawn.
Congratulations
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on October 06, 2013, 10:51:54 PM
 :wave:   Mariondl, just to clarify....when you submit your photo, scroll down below the photo and you will see a line entitled BBC code. Click on that line, it will highlight, then copy it into your post.

I had a lot of trouble withe bushes and the trees, started to dark and tried to do them in one go.

Hence the reason for the tonal painting. I know when I started I was also impatient to see the painting complete. First lesson learned was....Patience. Building the values slowly gives you more control, and when done properly gives you the ability to create the most wonderful aerial/colour perspectives. This is a very important lesson, I still practice it quite often. Monochrome painting is an excellent teacher in learning how to interpret and use value to your best advantage.

OK.... all done!!  :nana:     :attacked:     :heeha:     :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on October 07, 2013, 12:24:13 AM
Marion,

Your tonal painting is very good.

Now I want to try and see if I can do as well.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Denise808 on October 07, 2013, 12:37:47 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: Judie, Rainbowco, Cyril and Marion, all nice work!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on October 07, 2013, 12:42:17 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Marion, a lovely job on your tonal painting.  Patricia
Title: Monochrome cabin exercise
Post by: Steven on November 05, 2013, 02:27:40 AM
I tried this one with a stronger ink line format and looks like I over did it; I think it would have worked better with just the suggestion of ink outline. 

Also, the clouds might work better as tall mountains instead since I got the shape wrong.  Dennis was spot on with my oil familiarity wanting to go back and fiddle with the sky, I resisted for the most part.  What it told me was that I have to pre-plan my approach better.

Title: Re: Monochrome cabin exercise
Post by: Val on November 05, 2013, 12:08:08 PM
 ;D I understand you're thinking there Steven, I had some serious relearning to do when I started w/c ! Even though it had been many, many years since I had painted oils, funny how you fall back into it. Including the bad habits....like fiddling!  >:D

You've done quite well with this. Some of your intermediate values could use to be a bit darker (shadowed areas), get a grasp on the values and water/pigment control and you'll have it licked!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lidiya on January 02, 2014, 05:27:50 PM

Here is my Monochrome Landscape.  :)

To make my life a little bit easier, I used only Payne's Gray. I really liked a reference photo, so I couldn't resist to paint this one.  :smitten:
My real painting is lighter than a copy above.

 :thankyou: Dennis for a great lesson.

All the best.

Lidiya. :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on January 02, 2014, 07:09:06 PM
Now this is a top class tonal painting - excellent :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lidiya on January 02, 2014, 07:55:22 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis. I am so touched by your comments. :smitten:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: NHC50 on January 03, 2014, 11:21:45 PM
Lidiya, this is very well done.  O0

Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on January 04, 2014, 12:56:25 AM
There you go, Lidiya, you go to the top of the class!   :congrats:   Well done!   :clap: :clap: :clap:


I took a tour through your gallery and here i am back to tell you that I really enjoyed seeing your fine artwork!   :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lidiya on January 04, 2014, 01:47:53 AM
 :thankyou: Nina,  :thankyou: Lillian for your comments. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: richkay on February 03, 2014, 07:15:14 PM
This is my tonal study painting.  I seem to mix a brown instead of a gray.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on February 03, 2014, 07:52:11 PM
Richkay, you have grasped the technique of tonal ranges in a painting.  :clap: :clap: :clap:  It does not have to be a grey colour as long as it is a single colour.


Just be careful about outlining -  much too strong on the roof and the edge of the wall.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: richkay on February 04, 2014, 02:29:20 AM
Thank you for commenting on my painting, Dennis.  I am learning so much from your demonstrations.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on February 04, 2014, 06:35:03 AM
Richkay,

Welcome to Club PB. 

Your brown-tone painting is very nice.

Look forward to seeing more of your work.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on February 17, 2014, 01:11:45 PM
Nicely done Richkay  :clap: :clap: :clap: This is an exercise you can do over and over and it will benefit you every time. I often do little test blocks while painting to see the full range of a colour, keep going you're doing famously.  O0

Oh, and    :bigwelcome:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Ai Ke on February 18, 2014, 04:02:36 PM
Hi all,

Here is my try - admittedly the second try, since my clouds looked like mountains on the first painting.
Besides, I started fiddling and that did NOT help!!  :crazy2:
The second one I did with SPEEEED  :flight:

On to the bougainville!!
And thank you, Dennis, for the fotosketcher tip - I spent hours toying with it yesterday, love it! :smitten:

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on February 19, 2014, 01:21:28 AM
Wow :heeha:  Just look at the improvement  :clap: :clap: :clap: - at speed :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on February 20, 2014, 12:41:24 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Richkay, keep going, you are doing well and will get even better as time goes on. 


Ai Ke, you did a splendid job the second time around.  It is absolutely stunning. 


Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Danielle123 on March 31, 2014, 02:47:11 AM
Here is my  tonal painting that I made a few months ago when I found your site.  Thank you so much for all those free courses. Please give me your expert advice. 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on March 31, 2014, 03:04:32 AM
Danielle,

I like your rustic farm painting.  As for the tonal quality, looks good to me, but I honestly don't know enough to be a good judge.

The little clumps of grasses (weeds?) seem a bit too uniform. 

Otherwise, it's quite lovely.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Steven on March 31, 2014, 05:43:03 AM
Well done Danielle, you nailed this one! :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Danielle123 on March 31, 2014, 03:46:03 PM
 :thankyou: Mea and Steve, your comments are always well appreciated.   
Mea i guess my tuff of grass  are a little to much  alike, thanks for the tip. O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on April 01, 2014, 12:35:37 AM
 :yippee:      :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Danielle123 on April 01, 2014, 02:31:56 AM
Thank you Val
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on April 01, 2014, 03:27:34 AM
Danielle, nothing wrong with your tonal painting :clap: :clap: :clap:





Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Danielle123 on April 01, 2014, 11:57:12 AM
Thank you Dennis.  I did struggle with the clouds though I nearly bouched it because of a strong pencil line. I know next time I will not put a line in.   :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: magova on April 10, 2014, 12:40:02 PM
This is my second try, first time was so wrong I couldn't stand it  :D :D :D

 :thankyou:

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on April 12, 2014, 02:44:09 AM
Maya, the house and the foreground have been painted very well  :clap: :clap: :clap:
The main clump of tree on the right are too dark at the top - check the demo painting.
The center clump of trees also have to be much lighter as they are in the distance and will appear much lighter O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: magova on April 12, 2014, 03:58:33 PM
Thank you so much for your feedback Dennis!

I have to go back and fix this or give it another try :)

Greetings
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: CBusche on June 28, 2014, 02:19:24 PM
Here is my try at the Tonal Ranges exercise.




I went back and looked at everyone's paintings. Wow  :clap:  . There are some very talented beginners here. The paintings are so well done. 
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on June 28, 2014, 03:00:23 PM
Nice job Carol!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: CBusche on June 28, 2014, 08:06:59 PM
Thanks again Natalie. It's off to the 3rd lesson.  Simplifying a scene.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Lillian on June 29, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
I just saw your painting in the Newsletter, Carol!  Congratulations!  Well done!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: CBusche on June 29, 2014, 11:56:43 AM
 :thankyou:  Lillian!  I just saw the News Letter.  What a surprise! 

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on June 29, 2014, 12:53:32 PM
Congratulations Carol  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: CBusche on June 29, 2014, 05:05:31 PM
 :thankyou:  Natalie.

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Verpin on July 05, 2014, 04:17:01 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qUk3Lxch6Zk/U7gj8ul6sYI/AAAAAAAANi8/s6gusCZjgaI/s400/10383024_745536605488075_7764922717183524605_n.jpg)
not really happy with it, certainly will do one more.

jep, better
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--zApQ-c50OQ/U7wj9n0-LUI/AAAAAAAANkk/qHm88CKqEC8/s400/20140708_195229.jpg)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: CBusche on July 15, 2014, 04:59:50 PM
Well done  :clap: Verpin.  I like the second one better as well. It has more mid tones. Love the sky.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on July 15, 2014, 06:27:59 PM
Nice work Verpin!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on July 18, 2014, 06:37:09 AM
Looks like I missed this one ??? Verpin, your 2nd one is a great improvement. :clap: :clap: You are off the a good start  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Verpin on July 18, 2014, 09:10:03 PM
 :thankyou: I really tried! :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: IlincaotGramesti on August 19, 2014, 07:19:40 PM
Hello everyone!
Hello Nolan, Hello Dennis= The great magician for beginers  :thankyou:
Here is my lesson-2 tonal painting
Any comments gratefully received negative or positive!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: doina on August 19, 2014, 07:27:12 PM
Hi Ilinca. Your picture did not show on your posting. Did you follow the instruction? Here I am posting for you


If not, go to the lowest part of the forum and read how to post pictures, etc. I like your painting
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on August 19, 2014, 07:27:58 PM
Nice work Ilinca!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: IlincaotGramesti on August 19, 2014, 07:39:31 PM
 :thankyou: Doina a tehnical difficulty,  you can delete it now.
 :thankyou: Natalie
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Fiona on August 19, 2014, 07:51:48 PM
Beautiful Ilinca   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: IlincaotGramesti on August 19, 2014, 08:34:28 PM
 :thankyou: Fiona
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on August 19, 2014, 09:09:15 PM
Ilinca,

You are off to a good start for a beginner.  Your building looks good.  Your sky and landscape have too many solid lines.  A few lessons  on landscapes and skies and you'll do fine in the future.  I know from my own experience!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: IlincaotGramesti on August 20, 2014, 03:28:02 AM
Mea,

Your advice is very welcome.
The first lesson I enjoyed encouragement. Precious is now reporting errors.
 :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on August 20, 2014, 08:40:10 AM
Illinca, for a beginner you have done a banner job, especially the house :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on August 20, 2014, 01:06:27 PM
Excellent job Illinca  O0   You've really cottoned the idea of the tonal ranges, the house is superb, and the trees are far better than my beginnings!  ;D
You are doing very well, keep practicing  :yippee: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dnaleri3 on August 21, 2014, 08:30:32 PM

I did this awhile ago and just found it on my computer. I must admit I was clueless about the different tones in a picture until I took this class. Very helpful.
 :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: IlincaotGramesti on August 22, 2014, 02:53:54 AM
Thank you for commenting on my painting, Dennis.
Ilinca
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: IlincaotGramesti on August 22, 2014, 02:55:01 AM
 :thankyou:  :thankyou: Val
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Danielle123 on August 22, 2014, 01:28:52 PM
Chris and Ilinca you did very well on your tonal painting.  Good job. :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on August 22, 2014, 02:11:38 PM
Good job Kris.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dnaleri3 on August 22, 2014, 06:30:40 PM
Ilinca, you did a marvelous job on the building. The lights and shadows are done so well. Almost looks like a photograph. Way to go.   :clap:
Kris
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dnaleri3 on August 22, 2014, 06:32:10 PM
Thank you Danielle and Natalie.   :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on August 22, 2014, 08:43:50 PM
Very good value painting, Kris :clap: :clap: :clap:
 I have just one concern: On the top right side of the house there are two very straight lines in the background foliage. Soften these lines away as there are very seldom straight line in nature. It also makes that triangular patch to look part of the house. Do this and please repost without deleting the one you have up already so we can see and compare the result.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dnaleri3 on August 24, 2014, 06:39:27 PM


Dennis, I hope I understood your corrections you mentioned. I have worked on it for awhile and this is the result. Hopefully you can see the field now as a field. Thank you.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on August 24, 2014, 10:57:39 PM
Kris, you got it :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dnaleri3 on August 25, 2014, 12:21:56 PM
Thank you Dennis. :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Kedde on September 01, 2014, 04:54:49 PM
I picked up painting again after 20 years break. This was before any internet was avaiable to the generel public. Now starting again I have access to information like never before. I'ts truely amazing what I have access to from reading here and from the Videos. Well done O0

From the lesson I picked up, make a notan (I did and will do in the future), make a tonal (I did and will do in the future)

I can't wait to get on with a color painting ... applying the stuff I learned.

Well, here is my tonal ...

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: ncwren on September 01, 2014, 05:30:32 PM
Nice work Kedde!  :clap:

Dennis and Nolan have done a great job with the information they have put on this website!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on September 02, 2014, 02:29:07 AM
Keddee, excellent tonal painting of the house :clap: :clap: :clap: I have the same concern as with the previous painting by Kris:  See the comments in the postings just prior to yours O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Kedde on September 02, 2014, 03:22:26 PM
Tx Natalie and Dennis. And Dennis let me tell you how happy I am for you feedback. It's right on what I need to progress :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Judylh on September 19, 2014, 03:31:41 AM
Back to the drawing board and I mean that literally I realize I still need lots of practice with my pencil drawing skills but I do enjoy changing it up by learning about all these other amazing mediums ... so much fun!

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on September 19, 2014, 07:10:53 AM
Very well done, Judy :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Judylh on September 19, 2014, 11:44:42 AM
 :thankyou: Dennis!!!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Danielle123 on September 19, 2014, 12:42:06 PM
Nice ans soft looking painting Judy
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sherri on October 12, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
My submission for this lesson.  Boy I feel like I have gone back to not knowing anything.  This is so different but I am determined to conquer this.  Suggestions for improvement please.

Sherri   :tickedoff:

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on October 12, 2014, 08:08:50 PM
Sherri, don't stress. You are doing fine for the first time in watercolours :clap: :clap: :clap: It gets better as you progress through the lessons O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Danielle123 on October 13, 2014, 01:59:44 AM
You did great for your first wc, you will see it gets better and easier.   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sherri on October 13, 2014, 03:12:51 AM
Danielle you are my inspiration for trying watercolors!! Your paintings are beautiful
Title: Lesson #2
Post by: king.mark on November 13, 2014, 08:14:48 PM
A pen and ink base with a watercolour wash, a slight change to the original. Please be honest and tell me what you think, thanks.


Mark
Title: Re: Lesson #2
Post by: May lynn on November 13, 2014, 09:27:09 PM
Dear Mark;

It is difficult for members and guest to view your work.


Nolan has posted a 'How to post' video on PB. Scroll
down the list of topics and you will find it.  If after viewing/reading
it you still need help, just ask, a PB member will
be happy to help!!!!!!    :gl:

May lynn
Title: Re: Lesson #2
Post by: king.mark on November 13, 2014, 09:44:20 PM
Thanks I will do that.
Mark
Title: Re: Lesson #2
Post by: king.mark on November 13, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
Thanks May Lynn that work a treat, lesson learned.
Mark
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sue W on January 25, 2015, 12:14:34 PM

Here is the first of several that I'm posting.

The paint kept separating into blue, green, and purple; even though I kept mixing it. Made it a little colorful, though :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Bellarina on January 25, 2015, 12:28:05 PM
Sue I had trouble with this class as well. I had used a watercolor panel which was way different than the paper. Planning on retaking the class with arches cold press watercolor block.  The paint didn't want to sock up very well and I too had color separation.  Your techniques look good and the perspective looks good.  :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on January 25, 2015, 02:57:34 PM
Nice separation of values Sue  O0 Well done.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Danielle123 on January 25, 2015, 03:05:12 PM
Well done Sue.  :clap:  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on May 13, 2015, 09:49:32 AM
Dennis I know I still need a lot of practise. :thumbdown: I am going to try the third lesson in the meantime.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on May 13, 2015, 03:49:41 PM
Louisa,

It looks mighty good to me.  I thought it was a well-blended pencil version at first.

I don't seem to remember doing that lesson.  I'll have to give it a try.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on May 13, 2015, 04:16:05 PM
Oh Mea you made my day, my hubby is also very impressed but he cannot draw a stock man. :hug:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on May 13, 2015, 05:25:19 PM
Well done Louisa :clap: :clap: :clap:  This lesson was actually to show you that colour does not always make a good painting. It is the tonal ranges that are the most important in ANY painting. Without tonal ranges the painting falls flat :o
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on May 13, 2015, 06:05:57 PM
Thanks Dennis, now I can post it on facebook, I was scared that it will put the people off from subscribing to Paint basket. :thankyou: :thankyou: :hug:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on May 13, 2015, 06:55:59 PM
Silly girl!  You are fabulous testimony for what Paintbasket is all about!!!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jay-bird77 on June 18, 2015, 02:05:36 PM
Here's the one I did I'm not at all impressed myself, Dennis you've seen better from me in the forum's.

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on June 19, 2015, 02:47:48 AM
Jay, well done :clap: :clap: :clap:  My remarks for you is the same as for Louisa. You have captured the essence of the exercise - the tonal ranges O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: jay-bird77 on June 19, 2015, 02:56:11 AM
I did one two years ago and after two years of pastel painting really excelled me with values!
And  poor to a lesser extent though.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on June 22, 2015, 10:06:37 PM
I'm right there with Dennis Jay, you did the lesson, grasped the concept, and got the technique. In my book, that's a success!  O0 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Annie. on March 20, 2016, 06:10:15 AM
 :thankyou: Dennis for another great lesson. 

Although the painting is not great and my clouds were so bad I turned them into mountains...  I learn tonne during this exercise, including that it was normal for the pigments to separate.  Really puzzled me at first when I saw the blue floating in the water.  It will take me much more to master colour tonal values, but this is a great start.

I also tried a smoother paper then for the cosmos.  I did not like it very much as the paint was being absorbed very fast and it was difficult to lift off.

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on March 20, 2016, 06:47:34 AM
Annie, you have captured the essence of the tonal ranges, and that is what the lesson was all about :clap: :clap: :clap: The first thing I saw was the beautiful and very well painted "mountains" :2funny: Excuse me laughing, but they are good indeed. tonally speaking O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Annie. on March 20, 2016, 06:52:56 AM
 :) ... :blush:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 20, 2016, 09:43:42 AM
The first thought i had when I looked at your painting was,  :heeha: look at those great mountains....  :confused: there were mountains? i didn't paint mountains, could have been I suppose.  ??? Either way, I still can't tell what mine were!  :2funny:

Super job Annie on the tonal ranges!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: JBroxup on March 20, 2016, 11:46:24 PM
First try at tonal values..    Yes, I know this is important but not sure this is a good shot at it.


Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on March 21, 2016, 02:44:16 AM
Judy,

I love the look of this in tonal value watercolor.  Has a richness to it.  Has a folk art feel to it.  It comforting.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on March 21, 2016, 02:56:36 AM
Hi Judy, you have also captured the essence of tonal painting :clap: :clap: :clap: The center of the doors have some lines that are out of perspective.
I'm just wondering why, all of a sudden the clouds are turning into mountains? :whistle:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on March 21, 2016, 04:39:22 PM
I'm just wondering why, all of a sudden the clouds are turning into mountains? :whistle:

 :think: Odd that....must admit though, they do look rather nice!  ;)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on March 21, 2016, 04:53:08 PM
Annie - I love your tonal painting and your "cloud mountains" are excellent!! You can't stop doing WCs now!   :clap: :clap:

Judy - well done on your first tonal painting! It has a "Little House on the Prairie" feeling to it!  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Annie. on March 23, 2016, 05:23:31 PM
Sorry, Dennis I modified your lesson.   This was a great lesson.  I will try to do quick tonal painting exercises periodically.  I appreciate now the importance of developing a good eye for tonal range.

Mountains:  It is just that I could not paint clouds yet, and my clouds looked more like mountains to me.  :knuppel2:   I am painting with my friend Judy, hence why hers are also mountains!  I am sure we will have a lesson later on sky and clouds.

We are trying to behave better with the next painting   :angel:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Annie. on March 23, 2016, 05:28:26 PM
Thank you Val, Sharon, and Mea... you are so encouraging to me.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on March 24, 2016, 03:53:40 AM
You are forgiven, Annie :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: I really like those "mountains" excellent tonal ranges :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Kathysutterlin on April 17, 2016, 06:20:49 AM
 :eek: This was a tough lesson. I certainly learned a lot but I feel I have a lot of room to improve on this. Mixing the color was challenging as well as finding the correct tonal ranges. I welcome observations and suggestions.  :help:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on April 17, 2016, 07:09:48 AM
KathyS,

It does look like you put a lot of effort into this drawing.  It has a lovely rustic feel to it.

The little clumps of grass seem too uniform and too dark.  (I have an awful problem with clumps of grass, too!)

The trees above the right side of the house appear to be sitting on the roof.

I like it!  A few tweaks and it'll look grand.

aloha

mea

aloha

mnea
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on April 17, 2016, 07:12:31 AM
Excellent, Kathy :clap: :clap: :clap: You have captured the essence of tonal ranges and values O0 In this lesson I'm not too worried about small details.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Steve Weatherwax on April 17, 2016, 01:18:42 PM
A really nice range of tonal values!  :clap: :clap: :clap: You done good, Kathy!  :)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Straynative on April 17, 2016, 01:53:59 PM
Nice work Kath,

Looks great!
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Win on April 17, 2016, 07:35:58 PM
Nice tonal values Kathy.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on April 18, 2016, 11:28:56 PM
 O0 Super job Kathy, as Dennis said, this is all about tonal ranges/values. Excellent!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Kathysutterlin on April 18, 2016, 11:35:52 PM
 :thankyou: Mea, Dennis, Steve, Trev, Win, and Val. Now that I've stepped away from it for a few days, I feel better about how the painting turned out. The purpose of the lesson came through: the tonal values.

Now I'm working on lesson 3, Simplifying a painting.  :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Steve Weatherwax on November 06, 2016, 08:21:40 PM
Here's my try at the tonal painting. :)

Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on November 07, 2016, 12:09:24 AM
I like that, Steve.  Did you use Payne's grey or your burnt umber/ultramarine blue mix?

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Steve Weatherwax on November 07, 2016, 01:55:58 AM
Thanks, Mea. :) It was ultramarine blue and either burnt umber or raw umber. I forgot. Either makes black.
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Kathysutterlin on November 07, 2016, 04:20:37 AM
 O0 Good job, Steve.  :clap: You have a nice range of tones. It feels similar to what we learned in the Let's Draw class but with watercolor.  That was how I felt when I did this lesson.

Your tree has a mischievous face!  :D  I'm surprised Mea didn't see it. She's always finding shapes in trees and clouds.  :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: MaryAnne Long on November 07, 2016, 04:56:36 AM
Oh, no!  How did I miss that!  Nice smile, but he needs to see a dentist!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Happychappy on November 07, 2016, 03:35:27 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Excellent job Annie, Kathy, Steve and all the rest, too many to name.  I thought I had done this lesson for it seemed so familiar but looking back on my work, it doesn't seem as though I did.  So this is another for the future. 


Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Straynative on November 07, 2016, 05:59:17 PM
Very nice Steve  O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Val on November 07, 2016, 10:34:12 PM
Well done!  O0 This was a great lesson, I learned a lot about water control. Actually I think this lesson was most likely responsible for helping me out of the cauliflower patch!  ::)
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: dennis on November 08, 2016, 02:25:43 AM
Very well done, Steve  :clap: :clap: :clap: This is one of the most important exercise in painting - recognizing the tonal ranges while painting - more important than colour O0
Title: Re: LESSON # 2 - Tonal Paintings
Post by: Steve Weatherwax on November 08, 2016, 02:38:33 AM
Thanks for your kind words, everyone. :)