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Title: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on February 13, 2018, 03:28:08 AM
 I decided that it was time this painting had a topic of it's own, since Val set up her challenge. The deal is that she will do the Strawberries in pastel, if I do them in acrylic .... no, no pictures yet.The strawberry lesson is listed as “An Introduction to Acrylics” and doesn’t turn up if you just write in Strawberries in the search space. It is also the very last lesson listed on the acrylics lessons page, so it’s hard to find. I think there is another Strawberry lesson for oils.
 I've been struggling a bit, both with my health, and the heat, but the weather is at last cooling. Hot weather makes acrylics dry very quickly, even the Atelier brand. It hasn't helped that, in order to not drip sweat on the painting  :sweat: I've been painting under a ceiling fan, but that made the paint glug up even faster  ::). Following Nolan's instructions, I sprayed every time the paint felt tacky. Between that and dipping my brush in water from time to time I ended up with very thin paint. I left it 24 hours but when I tried to add another layer of paint, the thin original layer peeled back in large  thin ridges leaving bare canvas patches :o and the original thin colour reactivated, smeared and blurred. The problem is too much water diluting the acrylic binder. Out came the hair dryer. I then tentatively painted on a thicker coat since the weather was cooler. Allowed to dry under the fan which, this time, was not switched on until I had finished painting. Yesterday I painted over it with a binder medium and I’ve let that dry for 24 hours. Hope to get back to it today.
On Sunday I met an experienced acrylic artist, Pauline Johnson, who confirmed my suspicions that it was the hot weather that makes the acrylics dry so rapidly.  She moved from Queensland (the Tropics) and was amazed to find that acrylics seem to do faster in  temperate Tasmania! (Must be something to do with less humidity?) She also uses Atelier but instead of using water to thin the paints she uses a mixture of retarder, unlocking formula and either clear painting medium or slow medium which she mixes together in a bottle and mixes with her paint in order to avoid my problem of diluting the binder. I don't have the exact proportions yet but she has promised to send them to me. Neither I do have all these mediums yet, so at the moment I'm only painting in acrylics on cooler days. I'll report on their effectiveness after I've done some experiments some time down the track. in the meantime, I hope Val's pastels are causing less trouble. :painting:
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Happychappy on February 13, 2018, 12:25:09 PM
Linley, thanks for the information on the acrylic paints and what you are finding with them.  I am currently in snowy conditions and I find that the acrylic paints dry so very fast too so I don't think it is just in the heat although that would probably be the case here too in the Summer.  However, I have retarder and shall try adding some to the paints when next I try the acrylics. Perhaps I am just used to watercolours. Anyway, it was very interesting reading. Thanks.


Patricia
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Val on February 13, 2018, 09:26:40 PM
Good going to start a new thread Linley.  O0   I downloaded Nolan's strawberry photo the other day. We have had so many squalls and fronts coming through it's really become most annoying.  :tickedoff:   I went digging for some larger paper and think I've got a good size to work on. I wanted to do it on sanded paper, but I think it best to do a test run first to find the right colours. I'm going to very lightly rub the back of the paper with sandpaper to give it a bit better surface.... hopefully.  ::)

We've had four really good blasts go through so far today with winds to 40 knots! Right now winds down in the lower 20's, still too bouncy to work on the drawing. I must say not having a working printer will take me longer.... but I'm sure my freehanding skills are improving somewhat.  ;)
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on February 13, 2018, 09:43:06 PM
I suddenly remembered last night that I had not gessoed my canvas board before starting the painting of the strawberries. That would alter the tooth of the surface and further aggravate any adherence problems! I know a lot of people avoid canvas panels like poison, but previously I've always religiously gessoed and not had a problem. They are supposed to be pre-primed but the raw surface on this one in particular seemed rather slick. :whistle: I also found that not having a background was really disturbing me and making me reluctant to continue painting, so I painted in a glossy black one and now I'm much more interested in the subject!  :2funny:
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Val on February 13, 2018, 09:48:49 PM
 :2funny: I go one of two ways, I either leave out the background (bit of a fear thing there), or go totally overboard and Oy! What a mess!!! We shall have to form a club for the "Seriously Background Challenged! Patricia may be interested in that one as well!  :2funny:

By the by, how are you doing Linley, hope your health issues are nothing serious.
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Happychappy on February 14, 2018, 12:55:27 AM
A club for the "Seriously Background Challenged"????  Count me IN ... I am the queen of the background challenged for sure.


Linley, I hope your health issues aren't too serious.  I am battling a terrible cold which is now going on for two weeks and I still cannot get rid of it.  I will be so very pleased when Summer decides to arrive.


Patricia




Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on February 14, 2018, 03:01:01 AM
Val... Patricia... thanks for your concern. I have had chronic fatigue for many years now, and although I'm generally much better these days every now and then I have a bit of a relapse. It just means that for a while I have to take it easy and not strain the brain too much. And remind myself that this too shall pass... so it's not all that serious, just a very irritating nuisance.
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Val on February 14, 2018, 11:00:28 PM
Good to hear it's not serious then. Hopefully it will pass quickly and you can get back to your old annoying self!  ;)    :-* Love ya!
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on February 15, 2018, 02:02:20 AM
 :thankyou: Val!
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Happychappy on February 15, 2018, 12:31:58 PM
So pleased to hear that it is not too serious although chronic fatigue must be awful. However, try and rest as much as you can. While we are looking so forward to seeing the strawberries, we can wait, your health comes first Linley because without it, you have nothing.


Patricia
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on February 15, 2018, 01:45:11 PM
 :thankyou: Patricia. I think/hope I'm on the mend again so the strawberries will be posted next week sometime. ;)
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on February 21, 2018, 04:43:40 AM
Strawberries Binned! I actually broke the canvas board in half so I couldn't rescue it and try again. No matter what I tried to settle the thin paint.... thick paint, binder medium, hair dryer, several days drying under a ceiling fan, the red paint lifted every time I approached it with a damp brush. Maybe I'll have another go on another board some other time, but right now I don't think I could even eat a strawberry let alone try painting one again! :2funny:
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: TeresaM on February 21, 2018, 07:01:41 AM
You make me laugh.  :2funny:
 Try just paper and not a canvas and if you love it you can then frame it O0
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on February 21, 2018, 10:54:13 AM
Teresa.... it suddenly clicked that after not painting with acrylic for a few months, I wasn't using my stay-wet palette  :heeha:!!!! No wonder the paint was sticky all the time in the hot weather! Of course I can't find the stay wet palette now, and I didn't like it anyway because the sides of the box are too high (interferes with mixing), so I'm improvising with an inverted ice cream container and putting the sponge in the lid. Glad I make you laugh.... I make me laugh too!  :2funny: So tonight I prepared another canvas and I'll have another go at the strawberries tomorrow.
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on February 21, 2018, 10:56:44 AM
If the stay-wet palette works, I might even be able to eat strawberries again... although they are out of season at the moment.
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Val on February 21, 2018, 01:48:49 PM



 :doh:         :-X       :2funny:


Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on February 28, 2018, 07:20:55 AM
Surprize! :o
 I tore up the original canvas board a did this one and tried again on a smaller canvas (because that what was what I had on hand).  This time very little water and lots of glazing medium, and a home made stay-wet palette and the paint went on like butter.
 Been worrying that the background berry is the wrong shape... wasn't until I saw this photo that I realized that the berry shape is  ok, but the leaves are in the wrong place. I'll fix it later.
My home critic is worried that you can't see the details of the seeds on the second berry either. (He obviously doesn't understand focal points and atmospheric perspective... that's my story and I'm sticking to it.)
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Happychappy on February 28, 2018, 11:52:09 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: Beautifully done Linley.  The colours are vibrant.  Good job.    Patricia
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Val on February 28, 2018, 01:29:55 PM
 :tickedoff: 'ang abat, 'ang abat!!! There you are painting Nolan's strawberries free as you please, while I'm stuck shading his ball! Been at it most of the night. So not fair.  >:(   

Right, now that's out of my system I shall try to be civil Sybil.  :angel:    Linley you have done a wonderful job on the strawberries. Both look really good! Do remember though, when you put the leaves back on the rear berry to soften the focus on them a bit.  O0    :clap: :clap: :clap:


 >:( Not fair I tell you..........
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on March 02, 2018, 07:50:34 AM
 :thankyou: Patricia and Val.... both for the compliments and the advice. Val,  hope your weather improves soon so you can do something in colour for a change...
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Val on March 02, 2018, 02:21:29 PM
Had a couple of half decent days/nights, so got some pretty good sketches done. Only one more week before we head back to Guat. and calmer waters up the rio. Then I should be safe to break out my pastels again!  :yippee:
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: dennis on March 02, 2018, 09:00:40 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: Each little black dot is a seed that is set in a recess. Check a strawberry carefully and you will notice that each indent has a highlight  on its ridge. Add these in and your strawberries will suddenly become alive O0
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: TeresaM on March 03, 2018, 08:39:07 AM
Well done after all your struggles.   :yippee: No need for any more advise that has already been given  :painting:
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on March 03, 2018, 11:29:07 AM
 :thankyou: The highlights are there Dennis, and the seeds aren't quite as prominent as they appear in the photo.  I followed Nolan's  instructions on the highlights religiously. I'll try and send a better photo when I fix the leaves on the background strawberry. Maybe I need to make the highlights more prominent. I'll look carefully in daylight. Your comment is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on March 05, 2018, 07:17:47 AM
I hope this is a better photo but many of the highlights still don't show up. I've strengthened the highlights and added more leaves to the background strawberry.  Any more suggestions....? The seeds just are not that dark in the painting itself. And the background is mostly pink with mauve shadows.
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: dennis on March 05, 2018, 08:23:35 AM
Excellent :clap: :clap: :clap: Now the strawberry is alive  O0
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Val on March 05, 2018, 01:16:37 PM
 O0    Those little touches have done the trick nicely!  :clap: :clap: :clap:    My turn is coming!  :eyesclosed:
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: MaryAnne Long on March 05, 2018, 03:14:55 PM
Nice work, Linley.  Ready to eat!

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on March 05, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis, Mea and Val. Your encouragement means a lot!
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: nolan on March 05, 2018, 09:49:02 PM
Your strawberries are coming along nicely. :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:

The back berry is out of focus so don't want to add much detail there. O0

On the front berry, add more glaze on the left edge, gradually becoming less towards the inside as it is the reflected light in this image that creates the roundness
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on March 05, 2018, 11:57:28 PM
Ok.... advice noted, thankyou Nolan...
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Val on March 06, 2018, 12:01:38 AM
I'm going to stop coming here.... it's giving me a case of the willies!  :sweat:
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Happychappy on March 06, 2018, 12:46:46 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Great job Linley.  Patricia
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: robynann on March 06, 2018, 08:53:40 AM
Fabulous Job. I showed this to my aid and she thought it was a photo not painted!!
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on March 06, 2018, 12:26:03 PM
What a lovely aide you have Robyn!  But Val.... your strawberry season will come soon. ... when the weather abates. Patience,  child!!!
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Bill76434 on March 06, 2018, 09:56:55 PM
Dare I say ... this is as good as Nolans :sweat:
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on March 06, 2018, 11:40:07 PM
Bill, when you say nice things like that, you can dare anything. :thankyou:
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: EmmaLee on March 08, 2018, 04:01:05 PM
Your strawberries make me hungry. They look so good!
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: Gita on March 08, 2018, 06:12:44 PM
Fantastic painting, Linley!
Title: Re: Nolan's Strawberries in Acrylic
Post by: linley.plester on March 08, 2018, 11:55:32 PM
Thankyou Emma Lee and Gita. It was a bit of a struggle getting back into the acrylics after a while away from them, but I'm glad I persisted.