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Title: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on December 30, 2018, 05:28:46 PM
I decided that I had to get back into oils. I love the workability of them. I've chickened out and used watercolors and acrylics outdoors until this past week, but forced myself to load the easel with the oil supplies.
Getting used to wet on wet again has been a challenge but hopefully I'm back in the "Groove".
Yesterday the light was fantastic on these desert flowers and cactus.
Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: csebesta on January 01, 2019, 01:32:04 AM
Looks really nice!

Never had the courage to do plein air.  A neighbor keeps asking me to try, but then again he is a professional mural painter.

So my cowardice continues.

Like your work, keep up the oils!

Hope to see your next work soon.

Charles

Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: nolan on January 06, 2019, 09:33:12 PM
Looking great Brian. :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Charles - maybe head out somewhere where you will be alone for your first time. The biggest fear of en plein air is that people will come around and look while you are painting - in my experience anyway.If you know it is just you, you will quickly learn to love it. Then once your confidence builds, you can venture out to paint in a more public area O0

PS - Also realise that your outdoor paintings will seldom look as good as your studio paintings. That also helps take a the pressure off O0
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on January 07, 2019, 02:37:50 PM
Good advice Nolan! As usual.

If you have a local art group then Plein Air is easier if you are in a crowd, gives you somewhere to hide!

Start in your back yard, that's plain air!

Plein Air has to be fast because the light changes fairly quickly. That means you have to be "Loose". That's not a bad thing at all and helps you develop a "Style" of your own.

I was as nervous as a kitten the first time I tried it but now I like to have people come and look over my shoulder and chat, kids especially. The last time out people where standing next to me and getting their pictures taken! Hilarious.

I'll be out again tomorrow with the local "Casa Grande Urban Sketchers" this time in he Old Town section of town, should be fun.


Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: MaryAnne Long on January 07, 2019, 03:45:58 PM
Brian,

So happy for you.  I am giving plein air some thought.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: nolan on January 07, 2019, 08:00:52 PM
Have fun today Brian, looking forward to seeing your painting :gl:
Just go for it Mea O0
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: csebesta on January 07, 2019, 10:09:44 PM
Thanks Nolan for the encouragement!

This is not a great time of year to be outdoors in Houston.

But early April is when wildflower season begins.  Need to get in touch my neighbor and make preliminary plans.

Charles
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: nolan on January 08, 2019, 09:39:02 PM
that's what I like to hear :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: csebesta on January 09, 2019, 02:06:08 PM
Not trying to steal Brian’s thread, as he was the one starting this discussion, Thanks Brian.

Did contact my neighbor and he is excited, he wants to go to a nearby duck pond in an exclusive outdoor shopping center.  Guessing next week, after I get an oil primed canvas ready.

This will be great, not worried about embarrassing myself, as I have always been able to do that well.

Thanks for the thread Brian and you encouragement Nolan!

Charles
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: nolan on January 09, 2019, 07:38:34 PM
 :gl: and let us know how it went
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on January 12, 2019, 02:52:26 AM
Hey Charles, glad you enjoyed the thread. You can overcome your anxiety, go out and paint!
Thanks Nolan for the comments, always welcome and helpful.
This weeks Urban Sketch was in the "Old Town" section of Casa Grande Arizona.
The light was focused on the yellow wall and blue sign and the old pickup truck attracted my eye too.
Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: MaryAnne Long on January 12, 2019, 03:00:48 AM
Nice, Brian.  Easy feel to it.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: liz on January 12, 2019, 05:42:43 AM
 :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: LOVE all of your art, and enthusiasm for what you’re doing, Brian!!! ~Liz
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: csebesta on January 12, 2019, 02:27:44 PM
Wow, really nice.

Met with my friend who is an accomplished professional painter for over 50 years.  He is really excited that he has someone to go out with, I spent 3 hours just chatting with him about the approach to plein air, and what equipment I would want, which all gets here to day.

So weather and schedules permitting maybe next week.

Really like your most recent plein air painting.

Charles
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Val on January 12, 2019, 05:26:57 PM
Old trucks always catch my eye... loved my 1949 GMC and 1951 Dodge, both 1/2 tons. Great painting Brian.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Good on you Charles!  :heeha:   Have my backpack w/seat ready to be packed. Just deciding what to have a go at first... graphite, w/c, or pastel... decisions, decisions!  :doh:      :2funny:     Have fun, hoping to find someone to share the adventure with here.
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Aniz Oniro on January 13, 2019, 02:19:13 PM
Nice work :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: nolan on January 13, 2019, 09:58:09 PM
fabulous, love the old truck :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on January 27, 2019, 02:00:40 AM
Another day out in Phoenix AZ, in the Historic House area. A pleasant 70 degrees and lots of subjects to paint.
Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Gita on January 27, 2019, 03:12:56 AM
Nice fast work. I am giving plein air a thought, too. Your enthusiasm is spilling over, Brian! 👍🏼
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: nolan on January 28, 2019, 12:51:49 AM
Love this one Brian :heeha: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Bhavna on January 28, 2019, 06:25:54 PM
Lovely painting
 :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: dennis on January 28, 2019, 07:14:54 PM
Beautifully clean painting  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: TeresaM on January 28, 2019, 11:51:23 PM
Love the house painting  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on January 29, 2019, 02:46:22 AM
Thanks everyone.
There's a story to go along with this.

The area we chose to paint is a historic district of Phoenix When I rolled up outside this house the owner was working in the garden and I told him what I was doing and got his permission to paint his house.
Another painter Kimberley found another house and asked the owner if it was OK. She was granted permission.

After a couple of minutes when she was all set up the neighbor came out and started telling Kimberley she had no right to be there and she better move if she didn't want to get arrested!!
Kimberley politely said that the sidewalk she was on was public property.

The neighbor went storming off. Several minutes later she came put again and turned on the lawn sprinklers so Kimberley got drenched!


Kimberley quickly moved to the other side of her parked car and carried on painting!!


The joys of Plein Aire!!

Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: nolan on January 29, 2019, 09:30:08 PM
crazy, why didn't the lady just say sorry she has changed her mind, please don't paint my house. I have doubt Kimberley would have happily chosen another subject. :crazy2:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Val on January 29, 2019, 09:50:18 PM
Rather mean spirited if you ask me, especially after she´d given her approval. Yep... some days are just like that.
Good on Kimberley for just moving behind her car and continuing on.  O0     :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on January 30, 2019, 02:33:54 PM
It must have come across wrong, the person who owned the house said OK, it was the NEIGHBOR who turned the sprinklers on.
Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on January 30, 2019, 02:41:23 PM
A beautiful morning in the local park with the "Urban Sketchers"


Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: liz on January 30, 2019, 06:46:56 PM
Aloha, Brian,
I love what you’re doing!  :flowers: :flowers: :flowers:
Especially the Phoenix house, it’s ‘clean’ as Dennis said.  What kind of set up are you using? Something pretty portable? ~Liz
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: EmmaLee on January 30, 2019, 08:27:35 PM
Your plein air paintings are great Brian. Some people are so cranky. I feel bad for her neighbors.

Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Gita on January 30, 2019, 10:10:37 PM
I think it has something to do about being observed. People may not like this intuitively. We have to rely upon people who don’t mind observation.
Recently, while we were sketching in the old timer hall, they asked us to vacate their benches... so you see, Brian, this could happen anywhere.
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Val on January 30, 2019, 11:02:13 PM
 :oops: Pardon to the lady of the house. Shame, I'm so lucky to have lovely people all around me... even when I accidentally butcher their language.  :-X     I love that I can give them a good old belly laugh!  :2funny:
You are doing brilliantly with your plein air.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Happychappy on January 31, 2019, 01:50:26 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Brian your work is beautiful.  Just sad that some people are so mean spirited but I am pleased that Kimberley wasn't put off.   


Patricia
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on January 31, 2019, 03:06:28 AM
I recently bought a small box easel that fits on a tripod. It takes 2 - 9 x 12 panels in the lid. I bought it used on Craigslist for $40 and I love it. I'll try and get a picture of it set up and closed.Nice and light.
I also have the art chair I bought from Jerries Artorama which has a big pouch that will hold a full size French easel and has wheels. The best thing about it is it has a chair built in too so it's very handy.

Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on January 31, 2019, 03:17:25 AM
Not plein aire but still oils. I attend a life drawing open studio on Wednesday. Usually it is centered around poses from 2 minutes to 20 minutes.
This week was a "Long Pose" session and the model sat for 4 hours! That let me break out my big French easel, a large canvas and my much loved oil paints.
The model was "Sam" who is a belly dancer as well as a model.
Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: MaryAnne Long on January 31, 2019, 06:01:25 AM
Nice work, Brian.

You are really living an artist's life.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: nolan on January 31, 2019, 08:18:29 PM
ah, yes I misread your post :doh: (which is great in a sense because I don't get to use the face palm emoji enough, which lets me use this one too :  :tooth: )
Fabulous work on the live study - would have like a larger version to see better though ::)
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Val on January 31, 2019, 11:00:11 PM
 :(   Yes, any chance of a bit larger photo we can enlarge? It looks good.... but these lookers of mine don´t see enough of your fine detailing  :detective:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on February 01, 2019, 12:59:53 AM
Try this one, I forgot the image was from my cell phone and resized it 60%
Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Val on February 01, 2019, 10:22:14 AM
Better, thank you Brian. She is very well painted, the details around her shirt are very good.  O0    The closest front leg of the chair seems a bit odd, not quite sure what is happening there. Wait for a better pair of lookers on that. Over all, very well done. great job!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on February 01, 2019, 03:44:17 PM
Thanks Val,
The chair wasn't my focal point!
 :2funny:
Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: nolan on February 03, 2019, 10:32:57 PM
there we go, now we can see all the lovely details you have added to this study, love it! :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: MaryAnne Long on February 04, 2019, 06:17:06 AM
Brian,

Looks good.  Lovely shades of blue.

I see what Val means about the chair leg.  Looks like it has a paw next to it.  Maybe it's a shadow, but looks strange.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on February 04, 2019, 02:16:47 PM
The chair! It's a Queen Anne leg viewed end on with the shadow.
Is it so distracting??
 :confused: :confused:
Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: nolan on February 04, 2019, 09:14:50 PM
it didn't bother me
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Val on February 05, 2019, 02:22:18 AM
 :2funny: Now I've seen the photo itmakes much more sense!  what do you mean not the focal point?  :doh:    :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
I know... bigger magnifier!   :detective:       :2funny: 
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: stoney on March 03, 2019, 09:43:50 PM
I decided that I had to get back into oils. I love the workability of them. I've chickened out and used watercolors and acrylics outdoors until this past week, but forced myself to load the easel with the oil supplies.
Getting used to wet on wet again has been a challenge but hopefully I'm back in the "Groove".
Yesterday the light was fantastic on these desert flowers and cactus.


Brian


The desert has its own beauty and with everything in bloom well, that will blow your mind.
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: stoney on March 03, 2019, 10:08:18 PM
Looks really nice!

Never had the courage to do plein air.  A neighbor keeps asking me to try, but then again he is a professional mural painter.

So my cowardice continues.

Like your work, keep up the oils!

Hope to see your next work soon.

Charles


Cowardice?  Nah.  You've just not been intrigued enough. It's an 'entirely different animal'.  With plein aire, you don't have the luxury of time you've got in the studio.  Outside you've got a max of 2 hours before you're 'chasing the sun.'

Set your darkest dark and lightest light at the onset, and work between them.


You can simulate this (and get used to the time restriction) in the studio by having a two hour restriction. 

If you can't finish a work, outside, in the two hours and want to pick it up again; you'll need to start at the time of day another day when the light and weather conditions are the same.  That can be days, or weeks, later.

Some have no interest in painting outside.



Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: stoney on March 03, 2019, 10:12:32 PM
Hey Charles, glad you enjoyed the thread. You can overcome your anxiety, go out and paint!
Thanks Nolan for the comments, always welcome and helpful.
This weeks Urban Sketch was in the "Old Town" section of Casa Grande Arizona.
The light was focused on the yellow wall and blue sign and the old pickup truck attracted my eye too.


Brian

Neat!  What are you painting on?













Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on March 04, 2019, 12:29:05 PM
That's cheap 90lb watercolor paper from Micheals.. I picked up the wrong block of paper! I wanted 140 lb.

I recently bought a block of 140 lb Arches to try but haven't had a chance to try it yet. we are getting the RV ready for our summer adventure in the North West. We leave April 1st for California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Wyoming.
I tend to paint watercolors in the summer and oils/acrylic in the winter.

Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: stoney on March 04, 2019, 07:40:58 PM
That's cheap 90lb watercolor paper from Micheals.. I picked up the wrong block of paper! I wanted 140 lb.

I recently bought a block of 140 lb Arches to try but haven't had a chance to try it yet. we are getting the RV ready for our summer adventure in the North West. We leave April 1st for California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Wyoming.
I tend to paint watercolors in the summer and oils/acrylic in the winter.

Brian


Oregon's a beautiful state; lots to see.  It also has a lot of geothermal hot springs, as does other states in the PNW (Pacific N.W.).  Soak.Net gives GPS coordinates.  You can also check your library, or pick up a copy, for/of 'Hot Springs and Hot Pools of the Northwest
 by Marjorie Gersh

Snively Hot Spring which is located in Eastern Oregon North of Lake Owyee is RV friendly.  The water funnels into the river.  You adjust the temperature by the amount of river water you let in.


North of there is John Day and there's a desert area, who's name I can't recall, which blooms in the end of April beginning of May.

East of Oakridge (it's a speed trap) about 9 miles (at mile marker 45 on Hwy. 58) on the south side is a large parking lot. On the east side is a trail.  Follow it about 30 yds., and there's McCredie Hot springs.  It's a large but shallow pool.  Be aware it is day use only.

A few miles west of Oakridge, on the north side (sign to Westfir), is route 19.  There's a covered bridge in the area.  It goes about 30 miles and connects with 126 east of Springfield.  Maybe 15 miles in (don't quote me haven't been there for some years) you've got the Rushing River and then a small park with an old cabin on it.

Continuing North you'll see a 'day use' only sign for the next two miles.  There will be a parking lot (which might be problematic based on the day).  It's pay to park and there's a reserviour on the right of the road and a pond (with waterfall) on the left.  At the far end of the pond is a trail to Cougar Hot Springs.  It's five descending pools.

Of course you've got Crater Lake and (there's lots of pull offs on the southern road in if you're coming from Hwy 97 which goes from Weed, Ca., to the Columbia Gorge.  You can drive around the lake (and there's a North exit onto Hwy. 138).

If you were to exit the South end and head West.  It's about 30-35 miles to a paved connecting road.  Turning right will bring you to Hwy. 138.  Turning left and going a couple hundred yards there's a parking lot for 'Fairwell Bend' which is where the river has carved through the rock.  You can see bits of it from the road on the right.

About ten miles South you've got another nature spot.  Can't recall the name, but it's a 'land bridge'.  It's on the right, too.

Hwy. 138 (going West from the Crater Lake area) you come to the town of Glide.  Park either before or after the bridge exiting town.  That's the only place in the USA where you've a North flowing stream and a south flowing stream colliding on the north side of the bridge.  West of there is I-5.

Well before Glide you've signs for a couple of waterfalls, one on each side.

On Hwy. 138 at mile marker 61 there's a sign directing you to the left for a waterfall.  You'll park in a lot and walk in.

At mile marker 59 is a sign saying 'Umpqua' (Toketee) hot springs.  Take the first left, go across the bridge and there's a falls.  I'm not sure how the parking lot fares.  If you were to continue the road breaks right and you'll have Toketee lake on the right.  There are RV spots there.  If you continue past the dam up a hill you've got a good gravel road on the right.  Once you cross the bridge continue on for another couple of miles to a parking lot on the left.  Take the footbridge across and follow the signs to the hot springs.  It's on a forest bluff overlooking the river.

There's also hiking trails.  If you have questions or want to know other things kick me a message.
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on March 06, 2019, 01:58:39 PM
Thanks Stoney! It will be June or maybe July by the time we get that far North.
Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: csebesta on March 17, 2019, 12:14:19 AM
Brian, actually I got my plein air ‘kit’ together, and on a cold February day, I set up in my office mostly to: 1. See if my kit was complete (better to figure out what is missing in the studio than the field); and to see what I could do in two hours.

I had everything I needed, except maybe one more plastic bag.  The canvas was covered in two hours, I think a complete success.

So I am ready to go out, with confidence, as soon as the weather gets better.  I am meeting with Jeff this week to see a new Van Gogh exhibit here in Houston.  Maybe a trip out will get planned then.  In the meantime I am trying to finish up my two Cartagena pictures, nearing completion, so I am excited about that.

Thanks Brain for your thought and encouragement.

Charles
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: scouserl41 on March 17, 2019, 04:09:22 AM
Charles, that sounds like you have things sorted out, and if you can do a piece in 2 hours you have it all!

As for not having everything don't worry. You will leave something home. My classics so far:

Set up ready to paint..
No Paints!!
Set up ready to go
No Canvas.

You always forget something, that's what's good about a group you can share the resources!!

Enjoy
Brian
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Aniz Oniro on March 17, 2019, 05:55:49 PM
Brian i realy enjoing  your paintings :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: csebesta on March 20, 2019, 11:52:20 PM
Brian,

Thanks for your guidance and encouragement!

Jeff, my painting buddy, and I went to see the Van Gogh exhibit today.  Jeff spent quite a bit of time comparing side by side VVG pictures, one outdoor plein air and the other studio.  Both were exceptional but you did not see the detail in the outdoor seen.  The contrast and color was their, just not detail.

At any rate maybe we will get out in early April, we both get busy, but we are both anxious to do it.

Thanks again.

Charles

btw the exit was exceptional, any one in the area interested in painting should probably see it at the Museum of Fine Arts Houston (MFAH)
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: nolan on March 24, 2019, 09:13:48 PM
I went to see the Van Gogh exhibit today.
:envy:
Title: Re: Plein Air
Post by: Val on April 15, 2019, 11:53:14 AM
I went to see the Van Gogh exhibit today.
:envy:
Me too  :'(