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Title: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on February 18, 2012, 09:09:20 AM
In order for me to easily find and answer queries about this Lesson I will appreciate it if everyone will keep these  to this specific Lesson Posting only. This will also be of benefit to you as well in the future.  Thanks

Download Lesson 7 Template and Instructions (http://courses.paintbasket.com/handouts/watercolours-lesson-7-template-clouds.pdf)

Reference Photograph (http://courses.paintbasket.com/handouts/watercolours-lesson-7-reference-picture.pdf)

For cloud Explanations look HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cloud_types_en.svg)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on February 18, 2012, 01:20:56 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis,

I'm looking forward to being in your class tomorrow.  :)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on February 18, 2012, 05:17:22 PM
Thanks Lillian.
Believe it or not, I'm also enjoying the classs. Have'nt had so much fun with watercolours in years digging things out of the archives  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Karen on February 19, 2012, 11:32:46 PM
 :thank you: for the lesson. I painted along - it's getting a tiny bit easier! - the ref photo is good to let you know where we are going. it must have been technically hard to work out how to show it but it is really useful.
I'm putting my painting on though i will need to change some things like the right hand trees when i see the replay.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on February 19, 2012, 11:41:43 PM
Wow-eeeee Karen!

How beautiful!  And to think you did all that while Dennis was painting!   :congrats:

The trees on the right might not be exactly like his, but that doesn't really matter, at least in my mind.

You did a super job with the clouds.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Tousabella on February 20, 2012, 01:34:57 AM
Wow....that's excellent. Boy, you sure can handle both the "right side AND the left side" of the brain!!   :clap:  That's awesome..and to keep up with Dennis...wow.  Great job.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: NHC50 on February 20, 2012, 01:40:30 AM
Great Job Karen. You don't want yours to look like Dennis's. I like your trees. You have depth.  O0 O0
Nina
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on February 20, 2012, 01:54:42 AM
wow Awesome! and then you did it  along with the lesson  = awesome times 3!!!
The colors on the "butte", the sense of depth and I :envy: :envy: :envy: will NOT talk about the clouds!!


Thank you for sharing your effort. I find it encouraging ( and a challenge that forces me to show my work  and that is a good thing)
REgards,
brian

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on February 20, 2012, 02:36:20 AM
Karen - you're a STAR :clap: :clap: :clap: PLEASE don't touch or do anything further to the painting. As Nina so correctly says not to look exactly like mine. You have already made excellent modifications that are compositionally correct.

The reason it is becoming easier is that you are putting in a lot of exerted practice. This way you are forcing yourself not to paint with me stroke for stroke but shape for shape.

Just one thing - The main tree's highlight is too on the the top. As the sun is from the right side scrub a bit of the highlight out on the upper right of the tree. You will see how I did mine in the replay.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: C.Bodine on February 20, 2012, 02:44:49 AM
 :clap: Karen, my usual comment for you is...Beautiful work.... this is just another example of how accomplished you are becoming! I always enjoy seeing the modifications you make to your version.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Maryna on February 20, 2012, 06:52:55 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: very very nice
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Leana on February 20, 2012, 09:36:31 AM
Karen, what can I say that has not already been said.  Absolutely fantastic...  :clap: :clap: :clap: and that keeping up with Dennis... well done.  You are such an encouragement  :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lyndy on February 20, 2012, 04:36:50 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Lovely Karen
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: NHC50 on February 20, 2012, 05:11:27 PM
Well here is my painting of the clouds. I painted along with Dennis. But I got kind of lost in the foreground. To dark to soon. But that is all right. Its about the clouds. I like my clouds.
Nina
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: C.Bodine on February 20, 2012, 05:18:45 PM
Nina, I think your painting is very well done.  :clap:  The clouds look really good! Those of you who can stay up with Dennis amaze me!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on February 20, 2012, 06:39:21 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: Nina.  Your clouds are well executed and fit into the picture very nicely. If you lighten the dark bush a bit on the right side it will rectify the "dark" feeling you have of the foreground. Just be careful of the "spikes" radiating out from the center of the bush (tree). Keep most of them upright. Otherwise well done  O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Leana on February 20, 2012, 06:43:23 PM
Well done Nina  :clap: :clap: super job on your clouds.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on February 21, 2012, 02:37:42 AM
Nina, amazing that you kept up with Dennis and did such a nice job.   :clap: :clap: :clap:   :congrats:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: NHC50 on February 21, 2012, 03:24:40 PM
Thanks for the kind words. It was fun to do.
Nina
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Karen on February 23, 2012, 09:04:26 PM
I like these fluffier clouds and the extra blue sky Nina
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: NHC50 on February 23, 2012, 11:38:35 PM
Thanks Karen. I still am having problems with the forground. I have done it three times. I like my skies though.
Nina
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on February 26, 2012, 04:59:57 PM
All of you are doing such a bang up job! Can't wait to see the lessons that brought about these results.
 :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on February 28, 2012, 09:28:34 PM
 :pullhair: :pullhair: Just walked away from the painting :banghead:  Colors coming out way too dark, or way too,
 light,  very grainy colors, I.E colors are separating, washes are out of control :knuppel2:  paper too wet or goes too dry,

The "good new= my wife suggested I buy some new, better quality colors!

 :help: 

Would like to get some tubes, Suggestions on what to look for in good tube paints? I know most of us do not like to recommend brands,  But may be some one could share their experience and or suggest some guide lines.

DENNIS: A list of colors we will be using would also be helpful!   I plan on getting: Cad Red, Yellow and Orange, Alizarin Crimson ,Viridian, Raw and burnt sienna, Yellow Ochre, Burnt umber, Lemon Yellow and a light red ( Confused about this one, not all brands call it the same thing???) and Ultra Marine Blue. What would you add??

P.S. ( please do not tell my wife that the REAL problem is lack of experience and too much haste :blush:)

Going to just go read a book for a while, then come back and practice doing washes, washes and more washes , wet on wet washes, wet on dry washes and IF that does not work, I'll just go wash my hands and start again tomorrow :yippee:

Oh, did I mention I washed the paper and started over,  :censored: :censored:

May be I'll just wait till tomorrow to start again :sleep:
Regards,
Brian

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on February 28, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
Brian,  :wave:  Nice to have a supportive wife!

I use Winsor & Newton watercolor paints in the tube.  Best to choose the artist quality ones

Lots of info on their website http://www.winsornewton.com/products/water-colours/artists-water-colour/ (http://www.winsornewton.com/products/water-colours/artists-water-colour/)

The Winsor & Newton Cotman colors are the student quality, I don't recommend those.

Some artists I've talked to like Daniel Smith watercolors and I think they are less expensive.  One artist I know uses all Winsor & Newton except a few favourites in the Daniel Smith line.

Dennis is the best one to help you with your choices.

I just signed up for all the watercolor classes coming up next month.   :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on February 29, 2012, 09:13:00 AM
I use Winsor & Newton pans & tubes. Both work well, just depends on what is available to me at the time.  I ALWAYS use artist quality. I have used Daler Rowney artist colours and they are very nice as well. There are lots of good brands out there, but one thing I have learned is stick to one brand as much as possible. The same (name) colour between brands can be quite different. Yikes   :eek:  does that ever throw a screw in your colour mixing!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Dham on March 02, 2012, 07:46:10 PM
I like maimeri blu. Very nice quality and they come out of the tube in a nice soft consistency.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on March 02, 2012, 08:30:37 PM
Wow ... super job Denise  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: C.Bodine on March 02, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
 :clap: Beautiful, Denise!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on March 02, 2012, 10:49:44 PM
Beautiful painting  :clap: :clap: :clap:. Clouds rendered very nicely. Very dramatic at the cliffs - great storm approaching  O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Karen on March 03, 2012, 01:57:33 AM
As Dennis says, this is very dramatic. I like the shading in the middle clouds and the placing of the dark cloud, Denise. What colours did you use for that dark cloud?
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on March 03, 2012, 02:49:33 AM
Denise  :congrats:  Nice dramatic clouds!  Great that you're caught up on the watercolor exercises!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: sapphirelynn on March 03, 2012, 04:51:28 AM
Denise  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: nice job.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Leana on March 03, 2012, 11:25:58 AM
Denise fabulous achievement... well done  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Dham on March 03, 2012, 03:37:40 PM
Thank you every one. I feel like I am making progress.
Karen for the dark cloud I mixed a very dark ultramarine blue added light red to make almost blue black. There may be some viridian as I was using that for the right side of the sky.
Denise
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on March 05, 2012, 03:00:04 AM
Denise

Now that I have seen yours, I will return to class one more time and try again :tickedoff: :tickedoff:

Nice job!

Having a real "challenging :fight:" time with the large washes

I keep reminding myself that each painting is a learning experience :yippee:

Brian
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Harald on March 05, 2012, 07:32:31 PM
After stugeling for houers and contless atempts my contribution comes at last. Harald
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: NHC50 on March 05, 2012, 09:14:40 PM
Harald, congratulation on getting your painitng done.  O0
Nina
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on March 05, 2012, 09:55:53 PM
Sorry Harald... can't get the photo to expand. Looks good from what I can see. Keep them coming!  O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on March 06, 2012, 01:26:54 AM
Well done, Harald  :clap: :clap: :clap: Your struggling has paid off dividends - very nice touch you have and the clouds are also nice and soft and summery. You are well on your way to becoming a watercolourist O0

I just can't wait to see what all of you will be producing by the end of the year :)  You are doing me proud.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on March 06, 2012, 02:11:30 AM
Harald, well done!  I really like your clouds!   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on March 06, 2012, 09:57:14 AM
Harald...it opened!  :yippee:
You've done a marvelous job on your clouds.   :congrats:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on March 07, 2012, 03:19:07 AM
Harald,could you stop by my place And do my cloulds for me?  :whistle: I'm on attemped 7 And still they are awfull. Yours are what I would like mine to turn out like!!
Regards
Brian
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Harald on March 10, 2012, 12:15:05 AM
Nina, Val, Lilian and Brian

Thanks for the nice comments, I think this is really fun and look forward to the next lesson.
And Brian, I`m sure it would bee a great experience and vissit you in USA. I haven`t been there since 1965, but it`s to far at the moment.

Regards Harald
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Harald on March 10, 2012, 12:24:11 AM
Dennis

Thanks for the coments I`m looking forward to the continuing, and some day great art wil emerge. : :2funny:

Harald
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on March 15, 2012, 04:21:09 PM
Here is attempt number 2 , I washed number 1 off the paper


and here is number 7


If you notice, i changed the shape of the rock formation.. I changed it to protect Dennis. After class 9 on pen and ink washes, I heard some rumblings :cursing: from some animal rights groups that they where getting concerned about the amount of publicity Giraffes where getting compared to other African animals, So to maintain balance and avoid any angry demonstrations, I decided to include a Camel   :clown: :clown:

Also, ( in seriousness) i found I was (am) having problems recreating some colors, I asked my self, " what would Dennis do?" and decided to make a chart of every color on my pallet, showing it as" it self" and mixed with every other color on the pallet.   I divided a sheet of paper in to squares, across the top is listed every color AND down the side is listed every color. Then I made "swatches" in each square of the color listed in the top square and the one on the side.  Example"  viridian from the top row, shown by it self and then as i move down the column  mixed with cad red, cad yellow, cad orange lemon yellow, yellow ocher. etc.

Back to  :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: C.Bodine on March 15, 2012, 05:38:17 PM
Brain  :2funny:  :2funny:! I definitely didn't think "camel" when I saw your rocks! I really like the colors you used in the first painting! Nice and crisp! Not "muddy." I think I prefer the sky in the second! O0 You're really zipping along!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on March 15, 2012, 06:03:28 PM
Brian,  :congrats: :congrats:  You're really having a watercolor workout!  ...laying good groundwork with the color charts.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on March 15, 2012, 06:09:13 PM
 :2funny: :2funny: It's called Dennis' Zoo.(All animals are protected from me  :confused:)

Both your clouds are OK - no problem. Can you see that one is never able to completely replicate clouds you have already done -every one is different to some degree.

I'm impressed by the way you are documenting your experiments - this is how you learn quickly :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on March 15, 2012, 10:24:49 PM
Nice Camel!!  :2funny:  Nice skies.  O0 
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Harald on March 16, 2012, 01:04:52 AM
well done :clap: :clap:
Regards Harald
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Leana on March 16, 2012, 07:03:54 PM
Brian ... nicely done.  You are truly moving along... impressive  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Maria Canino on March 16, 2012, 07:21:36 PM
Brian,
I fail to understand why no one sees the camel :confused:  It is perfectly clear that he is resting in the fetal position waiting for momma :2funny: :2funny: By the way, your clouds are OK too... :clap: :clap:

Maria  :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 08, 2012, 06:35:20 PM
This is how far behind I am in Dennis' watercolor classes.   :blush:

Anyway, here it is.
  I'm moving at a snail's pace.   :)

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on April 08, 2012, 06:57:24 PM
Very nice painting indeed  :clap: :clap: :clap:. It's not the keeping up that counts - it's the fact that you are doing something constructive  O0

The clouds fit into the picture well. Slightly tone down the very light whitish area to the left with a dull green. This will bring out the absolutely lovely spotlight effect you have on the cliffs. Do that and your picture will shine  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Tony (ASM) on April 08, 2012, 07:43:18 PM
Lillian, if that's you 'moving at a Snails pace' then, you keep going slow 'cos, them clouds look great!  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: NHC50 on April 08, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
Brian very well done.  O0
Lillian great job girl. I am impressed with you both. Job well done.  O0
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Tony (ASM) on April 08, 2012, 08:27:45 PM
I've got the Hump!  Sorry Brian, I forgot to post a comment earlier today about your painting journey.
I like what you have done and shared. Camels...I love 'em  ;D
Keep up the great work Brian.  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 09, 2012, 12:33:45 AM
 :thankyou: Dennis, Nina & Tony.   :)

Dennis, I did just that and it did make a remarkable difference.  Thanks for pointing that out.  I always appreciate your input. 

I will try to post a revised version as soon as I can.   My camera doesn't take good pictures unless we have a bright day.  We're in for 3 cloudy, rainy days.  We sure need the rain, so no complaints.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Gloria on April 09, 2012, 01:10:39 AM
Brian and Lillian, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Maria Canino on April 09, 2012, 01:39:06 AM
Lillian,
Your clouds are good :clap: They look very natural, I like them  O0 You are not only talented but you are also
"multitask-ical" (I just made that up)  :2funny:

Maria  :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on April 09, 2012, 03:01:57 AM
Lillian,

what a treat to see your painting :thankyou: :thankyou: I looking forward to see the revision

P.s.  If you have a printer, or access to one, many of them are also scanners. that's how I post my paintings

Brian
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Harald on April 09, 2012, 09:44:35 AM
Liiian.  Absolutely fantastic. seems really thorough. We have a saying: come late but well.
Regards Harald
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 09, 2012, 10:42:48 AM
Gloria,   :thankyou:  I tried to do as you said, "Keep up the good work!"  But just couldn't pull it off.     :banghead:

I had two drastic failures with my attempt to do the dramatic clouds!  I'll try again though, next time on a better grade paper. 

The paper I'm using is 140lb cold press, Canson fine grain.  I think it's what could be classed as 'student grade'.  It says on the pad that it has a 'durable surface' but I find it's not so durable.  It doesn't absorb water well and dries quickly.  When going back to do wet in wet, the surface breaks down and pieces roll off.  I didn't spend a lot for it, so I'm not  :'( 

Harold, thanks.  I'm not doing so "well" on drama.   :)

Maria & Brian, thanks for your kind comments on my painting.

That's a great new word, Maria.   :2funny:  I'm not so "multitask-ical".   :eyesclosed: 
I haven't figured out how to use the scan function on my printer.  :blush:  I guess I never really felt I needed it.  I can photocopy, but scan, I cannot at this point.  Thanks for the suggestion Brian.  It might take me 3 days to figure it out and by that time the sun will be out again.   :2funny:

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Gloria on April 09, 2012, 02:25:26 PM
Dont give up Lillian. Try again. And buy yourself a good quality paper that wont give you all those hassles. I use the 140lb 300g. Its good enough for practising but when I improve I intend the buy the best quality. When I did my paintings I made mistakes and felt like starting over but I continued anyway with it, l tried to fix the mistakes and in the end it did not turn out too badly. Dont worry, you are doing good just by practising, I have found that its the only way to advance.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 09, 2012, 06:02:43 PM
Thanks for the encouragement, Gloria.   :angel:

It was 140lb paper that I used but a cheap one.  I usually use Arches cold press 140lb paper when I attempt to do a painting that is totally mine.  It's getting rather pricey and I've spent a lot on art supplies, etc. lately.

Excuse me, Dennis, but I've been using a lesser quality paper for your exercises.   :blush:  I do use artist quality paint though.

No Gloria, I'm not giving up!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 09, 2012, 06:14:43 PM
I did the change as Dennis suggested.  He's always right.   :thankyou:  Dennis.

The original
and the revised

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on April 09, 2012, 07:20:54 PM
 :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: nolan on April 09, 2012, 07:21:42 PM
Awesome work  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 09, 2012, 09:51:35 PM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: Dennis & Nolan   :not_worthy:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: C.Bodine on April 10, 2012, 03:12:02 AM
:clap:  :clap: As always, Lillian!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Leana on April 10, 2012, 07:08:53 AM
 :congrats: Lillian...
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jennylynn on April 10, 2012, 10:52:21 AM
well done lillian  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 10, 2012, 11:13:31 AM
C, Leana & Jennylynn,  :thankyou:  You're always so encouraging  :1hug:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on April 11, 2012, 11:38:14 AM
LILLIAN!!! The painting is brilliant  :clap:  :clap:  You fear you are far behind..... if you are moving at a snails pace, you must be on the racing version! Mine doesn't seem to have found the starting gate yet!  :2funny:  I'm still trying to sort my way through #3   :D
You are coming along amazingly, keep it up.  O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 11, 2012, 01:27:11 PM
Val,  :1hug:  You're too kind!   :thankyou:

I'm stalled on the painting of the dramatic clouds.   :banghead:

The last one I did has so much pigment in the paper you can almost rub it off with your fingers!   :2funny:  The light spot in the painting looks like it would be fitting if I painted an angel descending from Heaven.  Maybe it's the Easter season that got to me.   :2funny:  I haven't finished the landscape portion of the painting.  I'm thinking, "What's the use?"  I might as well start over!

I guess I'm learning how the paint moves around on the different papers I've tried.   :confused:  I really don't know what I'm learning at this point with this one.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on April 11, 2012, 03:35:30 PM
Perhaps try a different subject, then come back to this one. Might give you a fresh outlook. That's why I tend to go between the w/c and the drawing. Seems to just clear the air between the ears!   :whistle:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on April 11, 2012, 08:23:28 PM
Lillian, My hair STILL has NOT grown back from my attempts to paint the "Clouds: :'( :'(

Both copies of the painting you posted on the 9th are fantastic and the revised one is out of this world!!

I really hope you enter some of the  shows here in Northern New York / Eastern Ontario.  I'll let ya know when i hear of shows on this side of the creek

Besides, when you get famous, we can all tell people we know ya :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:

Brian
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 11, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
Thanks Val.  I spent the afternoon trying to salvage yesterdays try at the dramatic clouds.  Enough is enough,  I'm not giving up, just moving on.   :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 11, 2012, 09:10:48 PM
Oh Brian!  You have an inflated image of my accomplishments.   :flowers:

I've never entered a show.  I am toying with the idea of entering my mixed media project in a local gallery that's calling for entries.  I've been talking to my instructor at the college and she's given me some info.

I'd love to know when there are shows on your side, if for nothing else to go see and be inspired.   :)

When I get famous, you can bow down!   :not_worthy:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Gloria on April 18, 2012, 08:02:08 PM
So here comes my clouds. I am slowly catching up.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 18, 2012, 11:41:41 PM
Gloria good for you!  I like your clouds.  They look to be moving over the cliff.  Very nice!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Gloria on April 18, 2012, 11:48:48 PM
Thanks Lillian, I gave it my best shot, I still have to do dramatic clouds.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: pnewcomer1 on April 19, 2012, 12:13:33 AM
Very nice clouds Goria  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Penny
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Gloria on April 19, 2012, 03:18:48 AM
 :thankyou: Penny for the encouraging words.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on April 19, 2012, 03:44:50 AM
Gloria, very nice painting indeed. I like your clouds because you have managed to not paint them like "cottonwool clouds".  :clap: :clap: :clap: You have also kept the focus area on the cliff.  O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Gloria on April 19, 2012, 01:44:14 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis. Funny enough  they started out as cotton balls so did my best to fix them.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: NHC50 on April 19, 2012, 04:28:58 PM
COOOOOOL! Gloria. Nice job on your clouds.  O0
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Gloria on April 19, 2012, 05:19:21 PM
Thank you Nina.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: C.Bodine on April 20, 2012, 11:56:48 AM
I love the bright sky, Gloria. Nice job on the clouds! O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Gloria on April 20, 2012, 09:02:09 PM
Thanks C. I appreciate your opinion.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on April 20, 2012, 10:36:04 PM
Gloria:

I like the way the dark foreground coupled with the lighter middle distance really draws my eyes to the cliffs. 

and along with everyone else, Congrats on the sky..

Me and sky s  still  :fight: alot :yippee:

Brian
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Gloria on April 21, 2012, 01:08:48 AM
Thanks Brian. I fought with my clouds also and luckily it turned out not too badly.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on April 28, 2012, 02:01:39 AM
Wonderful clouds Gloria  :clap:  :clap:  I wish my skies had been this nice last week!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Gloria on April 28, 2012, 02:40:59 AM
Thanks Val, enjoying the learning process.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ImBatman on June 10, 2012, 02:51:06 PM
Hi everyone

Got my clouds effort done. They are a little different to Dennis's, but I used my  :painting: license.

I don't know that this was my best so far. Let me know what you think.

Batman.

Painting Clouds!
Painting Clouds!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on June 10, 2012, 03:08:47 PM
Clouds have always been highly elusive for me...never seem to do quite what I want...   :tickedoff:  but then, that's what makes a cloud a cloud!   ;D
Good job for a first go, keep at it.    O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ImBatman on June 10, 2012, 04:32:22 PM
Thanks Val

I stuffed up the positioning of the drawing by not reading the full instructions and doing it before I started the replay. So I had less space at the top and then the blotting out didn't go as well as it seemed to for Dennis.

I might redo it at some point.

Want to move onto Dramatic Clouds today - must take advantage of time off. We have a Public Holiday today and then I have the rest of the week off. Trying to catch up with the lessons.

Batman.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on June 10, 2012, 04:47:51 PM
Nice clouds, Batman.  They look like they're rolling across the sky.   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on June 11, 2012, 03:05:17 AM
I tried to bribe Harold to do my clouds for me...  :tickedoff: :tickedoff: he said "No!

Are you bribe-able??? :yippee: :yippee:

Nice job!!

Brian
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on June 11, 2012, 10:11:49 AM
The only real problem I have with the painting is the bright red mountain with vertical stripes. What made you change the colour? ;)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on July 24, 2012, 08:54:06 PM
I'm just not getting the hang of clouds. :help:

This is my second attempt in the first photo.  The second photo is my third attempt just trying to do the sky by itself.

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on July 24, 2012, 10:00:44 PM
I think you've got a dynamic sky going there, and the makings of an exceptional landscape.  Perhaps softening a few hard edges on the left side (sky) will help even things out a little. Superb sky in the making.   O0
 :clap:   :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on July 25, 2012, 03:04:50 AM
Natalie, you are definitely getting the feel for painting wonderful clouds. The dampness in the paper was just correct for the lovely merging of the colours.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

The only harsh section is the hard diagonal line right above the mountain. Soften it  down.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on July 30, 2012, 03:35:45 AM
Natalie,

i got ya beat  :2funny: :2funny: with the number of attempts before I got anything even remotely resembling passable clouds!   :2funny:

Your sky "shines" as a beautiful example of what Dennis was teaching

very nice job!

Brian
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Denise808 on September 26, 2012, 05:08:37 AM
Hi All,

Here is my attempt at "Everyday Clouds". I enjoyed playing around with the water to create the sky but ended up not really having any definite clouds to speak of (like the lesson intended anyway).

I also had a lot of "spidery veins" when I applied the blue for the sky. Is this from too much water or is this normal? I tried to clean this up whenever it happened.

Also, my trees got worse instead of better on this lesson so it's a good one to redo for sure.

Thanks Dennis, I learned a lot! (as usual)

Looking forward to feedback  :coffee:

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on September 26, 2012, 10:00:56 AM
Denise, your clouds are fantastic - nothing wrong with them - stunning  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

The tree ares is a bit darker than intended but that does not necessarily make it wrong - just another atmosphere. It has given a spotlight effect on the mountain.  O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jennylynn on September 26, 2012, 10:20:03 AM
denise like dennis said your clouds are "fantastic"   absolutely love them!!   
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on September 26, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
 :smitten:  Great sky!!!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on September 26, 2012, 01:22:03 PM
You did it!  It's lovely, Denise!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: SunRai on September 26, 2012, 03:38:41 PM
Denise - your sky is great!  The colors and shapes look so natural!  Although, sometimes I see clouds that if I painted them the way they looked, someone would say that didn't look real!!  I like the rest of the painting as well.  Nicely done!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: njnjgirl on September 26, 2012, 06:01:37 PM
Just finished painting and I had so much fun doing these clouds.   Had some trouble with the foreground so I used a sponge.    I love everyone's pictures so far.  How different all our clouds are.. Cooll!!!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on September 26, 2012, 06:29:23 PM
Njnjgirl, the whole object of the lesson was about clouds and yours are also excellent and very natural  :clap: :clap: :clap:
What worries me are the strong vertical equi-spaced lines in the mountain. Check how I did mine.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: njnjgirl on September 26, 2012, 07:17:26 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis, I have changed the cliffs.  I didn't even notice that, I was concentrating so much on the clouds and foreground. It did look odd now that you pointed it out. 
 
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Denise808 on September 26, 2012, 07:54:59 PM
Thanks everyone!
Dennis, glad you like the clouds - after looking at it after a night's sleep I like it better today. Of course all the positive comments helped too  ::)

njnjgirl, your's looks awesome! so does the mountain fix...very pretty.
Thank you, thank you Rita, SunRai, Lillian, ncwren and Jennylynn  :smitten:
You all make my day happier.....

Dennis, now I'm even more looking forward to painting "Dramatic Clouds"!! Thank you...

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: SunRai on September 26, 2012, 08:20:49 PM
njnjgirl - your clouds look great!  And now that you've "fixed" the cliffs, the whole painting is looks good.  Nice job -  :clap:

Now on to the Dramatic Clouds!  :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: njnjgirl on September 26, 2012, 08:34:57 PM
 :thankyou:  This is such fun.....and you all are so nice :smitten: 
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on September 26, 2012, 09:13:08 PM
There you go  :clap: :clap: :clap: Look at the difference that has made  O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on September 26, 2012, 09:55:53 PM
Beautiful clouds njnjgirl!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on September 26, 2012, 11:09:57 PM
Beautiful, believable clouds. Great job.   :clap:   :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Mihaela on October 02, 2012, 10:46:19 PM
Just seen all the other paintings - you guys, really know your stuff! Great job! :clap:
Mine... not so great. Plus, I must tell you about my scanner - it is a real charmer! The colours you see here are not even close as good in reality! Mine are duller and muddier and not so vivid (too much water as usually I presume). I like the clouds but they are not so well defined as they should've been but I am affraid to touch them again, affraid i would ruin them. Any constructive criticism? PS: Note the zig-zags on the borders. This is what I put up with, for not being able to find a decent quality masking tape. :thumbdown: ... and yes, I do press hard on the edges and corners.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on October 02, 2012, 10:50:49 PM
I like the clouds, Mihaela.   :clap: :clap: :clap:

As for the paint migrating under the masking tape, I think it looks  8) .  No need to worry about it, when it's framed, it will be covered.   :flowers:

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Denise808 on October 02, 2012, 11:57:12 PM
Mihaela your clouds  are gorgeous!! So is the rest of your painting. I also had a concern about my clouds not being defined but Dennis gave it a positive review anyway. Yours look awesome and I really like how you did the cliffs and the immediate surroundings. Awesome.  8)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on October 03, 2012, 12:40:22 AM
Beautiful clouds Mihaela!  :)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: C.Bodine on October 03, 2012, 03:48:07 AM
Mihaela, your sky is wonderful! Great job on the entire painting!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Mihaela on October 03, 2012, 06:00:52 AM
Thank you, guys, let's hope Dennis thinks the same :)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on October 03, 2012, 09:35:20 AM
Very nice painting, Mihaela   :clap: :clap: :clap: Clouds are very well executed as well as the rocks  O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on October 03, 2012, 04:50:24 PM
 Glad to see you found your way Mihaela   O0

I told you they were good!   ;D   :clap:   :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Mihaela on October 03, 2012, 05:27:05 PM
I did! Eventually :)) Thanks, Val. And thank you, Dennis, you have no idea how much it means to me.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on October 04, 2012, 01:30:58 PM
Mihaela


 O0 O0

Re masking tape and all other painting supplies.. I have found that if there is a collage within reach ( even small "JR. collages)  their book stores have a  good selection of decent art supplies at realistic prices.

Bye the bye...Upon joining PB, we are granted an Artistic License   at the same time our Critic's License to judge our own work is REVOKED!!! :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on October 04, 2012, 03:45:41 PM
Quote
Upon joining PB, we are granted an Artistic License   at the same time our Critic's License to judge our own work is REVOKED!!!

 :2funny:  Chuckle, chuckle.  Nice to see your joviality on the forum, Brian. 
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on October 05, 2012, 12:42:31 AM
our Critic's License to judge our own work is REVOKED!!! :2funny: :2funny:

I'm going to revamp that a wee bit and put it on a t-shirt.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Denise808 on October 05, 2012, 04:11:09 AM
Oh, I want that t-shirt too!!!
and I want a Paint Basket member t-shirt. I'm sure we could find an artist somewhere to design it . . .  ::)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on October 05, 2012, 11:41:57 PM
I was never meant to paint today, unless it was to prove to Mary that she is not the only one that can fudge a painting!   ;D
Let's see, paper dried too fast while putting in the sky,   ???  went looking for my spray bottle to save the day,  :run:  knocked wet sponge off table, stepped on said wet sponge and went for slip,  :injured:  finally found bottle, sprayer broke, pumped an ocean of water over painting,   :eek:  mopped up running paint, you wouldn't believe how fast some paints can merge!   :o
I'll stop there, and that was just the beginning. Kind of went downhill from there. I really thought I could save this  painting...HA! CPR could not save this puppy.

I think it's safe to say, I'll start a new one.....later.   ;D

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on October 06, 2012, 12:37:05 AM
 :2funny:   :nono: Val, you can save this,  :promise: 

Your sky doesn't look that bad!  In fact it looks puuuuuurrrrrdddddyyy good!  I really like it!   :clap: :clap: :clap:


Lighten the cliff a little on the sunny side and add some detail in the foreground trees and bushes and you've got a great painting!

Now who's being hard on herself??? !!!    :knuppel2:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on October 06, 2012, 12:47:29 AM
You know Lillian, I should have known it was time to quit after I knocked my paintbox and got all my colours in the wrong places! Interesting how you get in the habit of knowing where the colours are in your box...and then they get moved...the mixing just doesn't go so well!   :faint:  On the upside I think there's a few more colours for the PB paintbox.   :2funny:
Thanks for the pep talk....but I think I'll try again another day.   :wave:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on October 06, 2012, 01:54:16 AM
I agree with Lillian - do as she says  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on October 06, 2012, 02:33:11 AM
I like your sky as well!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on October 06, 2012, 02:06:04 PM
Ok, Dennis, in all fairness I did take another look at it this morning. I just happened to notice I forgot to paint the rocks! So, let's just say there's some run-a-muck sheep on the loose.   ::)
Unlike some others here, my memory isn't as good as theirs   :whistle:  Still having problems getting the replays to work properly.   :(  For some reason even my android didn't want to let me see the ref. photo. Couldn't open any pdf files. Last night it decided to allow me entrance...yikes, was I far off or what?   :2funny:
Please don't   :ban:  me!   :heeha:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: C.Bodine on October 06, 2012, 03:30:33 PM
Val, you worked hard on it! :)  You can do as suggested and it will be just what is needed! I like your sky! O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on October 06, 2012, 06:51:24 PM
Thanks C.  You always manage to find something to like. I might not be overly fond of this one, but at least I don't hate it! I might just have to pull it out of the bin sooner than planned due to popular demand!   :2funny:
Title: Painting Clouds
Post by: Red1 on October 08, 2012, 02:26:14 AM
Okay, guys.  I've painted the "Everyday Clouds" lesson 3 times now and I totally suck.  All I have is a huge mess.  The colors are dull and muddy.  I cannot get a sky color to save my life.  For some reason my ultramarine blue does not look the same as Dennis's.  I've tried two different brands.  No matter how wet I keep the paper I have lots of cauliflowers.  If I was trying to paint the inside of a tornado I might have something.  Any suggestions??
Title: Re: Painting Clouds
Post by: musika on October 08, 2012, 03:09:33 AM
Hello, Red1.

You would be better off posting your paintings (don't worry about how bad you think they are - they are never as bad as you think) so that Dennis can SEE what is happening, rather than just guessing.
Title: Re: Painting Clouds
Post by: Denise808 on October 08, 2012, 03:56:26 AM
Hi Red1,
Just wanted to encourage you to go ahead and post your paintings. I agree with Ray. I think you will end up suprised and relieved with Dennis' advice. It will save you a lot of stress if he can see your work and get right to the solution. No need for  :pullhair:  :)
Happy painting....
Title: Re: Painting Clouds
Post by: dennis on October 08, 2012, 09:01:55 AM
Cauliflowers happen when you add a colour with much more water than the previous wash. This extra water washes the pigment away from its place.

The solution is to use LESS water in your brush than the previous layer.
Title: Re: Painting Clouds
Post by: Red1 on October 08, 2012, 02:01:28 PM
Thanks to everyone for responding.  I have to work today so maybe when I get home I'll consider posting my painting so you can see how bad it is.  It should probably be censored.  ;D
Title: Re: Painting Clouds
Post by: Val on October 08, 2012, 02:04:03 PM
Hi Red1, I would gladly hand my 'Cauliflower Queen' crown to you!  ::) I sometimes get them even in the first wash...  :o
As Dennis says it is definately a case of too much water, I swear I saw a fly doing the backstroke across my cloudy(?) sky!  :2funny:  :2funny:
Post your painting and Dennis can give you solid advice. If you're worried about how it looks, check out mine.  :D
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Red1 on October 08, 2012, 11:48:26 PM
I'm sure I deserve it.  Anyway, you judge.  Here is my 3rd attempt at this lesson.  I'm open to any and all suggestions.  I think it kind of resembles a "mushroom cloud" from an atomic bomb.


Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Denise808 on October 09, 2012, 12:19:37 AM
Hey Red1,
I just started the watercolour classes myself so I won't critique. Just want to let you know though that I think your painting looks nice! Far from the disaster you had in mind! I don't see any cauliflowers in this one and your foreground looks great too. Keep on keepin on....
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on October 09, 2012, 12:27:45 AM
Sorry Red1, no crown for you.  ;D Guess I'm still queen of the patch!
I'm not seeing anything majorly wrong here. You managed to keep some whites in the cloud (which I didn't), I didn't get to the tree line, and your colouring looks good.  O0
Dennis will give you a few magic tweaks to perform and voila! This will become a real keeper.  O0   :clap:
You did good.  :twothumbs:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on October 09, 2012, 01:37:11 AM
You're doing very well, Red1!   :clap: :clap: :clap:

I like your clouds, no cauliflowers to be seen.  Your sky looks nice and bright. 
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on October 09, 2012, 01:56:20 AM
Your sky is lovely!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Red1 on October 09, 2012, 02:04:14 AM
 :thankyou: to everyone.  You're all too kind.  But I'm grateful for the encouragement.  I'll continue working and trying to improve.  I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on October 09, 2012, 02:11:42 AM
I'll continue working and trying to improve.  I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet.
That's the ticket!  :yippee:  Keep at it  :fight:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Red1 on October 10, 2012, 02:27:41 AM
Okay, here's my 4th attempt.  I think the clouds are better but I'm not sure about the foreground.  I just drew and painted straight from the photo this time without following along with Dennis. 

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Denise808 on October 10, 2012, 04:36:16 AM
Wow Red1,
That looks great! I really like the color in the clouds and the foreground looks even better!! I think I see an angel in the clouds  :angel:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on October 10, 2012, 01:44:54 PM
Excellent sky in this one   :clap:  cloud looks great   O0  Practice is the key.  :clap:  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: C.Bodine on October 10, 2012, 01:51:55 PM
 :clap:  :clap: Great job, Red1! Clouds look good!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on October 10, 2012, 01:54:45 PM
Your sky is well done, Red1.  You're doing well!   :congrats:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Rkymtnmary on October 10, 2012, 02:40:22 PM
Dramatic clouds indeed, Red1!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on October 10, 2012, 05:09:54 PM
Lovely painting Red. Although it is a cloud painting, don't forget to lift out the sunshine on the cliffs. It all adds to the overall effect of the picture and enhances the clouds as well.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: eftpower1 on October 11, 2012, 03:48:37 PM
Red,
At your stage of the journey, I was trying to  BRIBE people to do my skys for me! :2funny:  If I was still there, I'd be trying to BRIBE YOU!!! :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:

If I may tell you what I have learned  from my experience.  I found I gained more and grew faster by posting my ALL my efforts, getting the feed back and then correcting / modifying them..   I started out like you, putting aside the ones I did not like and doing another.   Now I  may do another one, but it is after I do any corrections /modifications on the 1st one.  There is also something very empowering about learning how and being comfortable with making corrections.

I have two to modify and re post,  when I do I'll try to remember to post the original, the "removed the "BAD  :knuppel2: paint  ' one and the modified painting.

Nice job on you painting, The sky is well done

Brian
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Red1 on October 11, 2012, 11:57:20 PM
Dennis and eftpower1

Okay, I tried enhancing the sunshine and shadows on the cliff like Dennis said but I can't tell if it helped it or made it worse.  It was pretty bad to start with.

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on October 12, 2012, 07:46:54 AM
 :clap: :clap: Lovely. Before it was just flat, and now it has started to show the rounding and given volume to the top area.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: globe4 on February 23, 2013, 09:48:11 PM
My new work after 2 days, 2 washings, 1 thrown out  :sweat:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IYWMGlfmhy4/USkbfKu0vAI/AAAAAAAAACY/zGGn18pEgoc/s894/IMG_6665.JPG)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Sarah (arch) on February 23, 2013, 10:12:21 PM
Good Tanya! You and the clouds both survived. I think they are really tough. Guess I should get at this lesson, too.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: globe4 on February 23, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
Thanks, Sarah :) It was a nice lesson though tough :) So I definitely advise.  :gl2:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on February 23, 2013, 11:10:48 PM
Good going, Tanya. Lovely storm clouds. :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: globe4 on February 24, 2013, 12:05:40 AM
Thank you for your comment and your nice classes, Dennis,  I really enjoy following them  :painting: :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Denise808 on February 24, 2013, 12:39:28 AM
Tanya, I like how your clouds have given this lesson a unique feel. Nice work!!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: njnjgirl on February 25, 2013, 11:23:39 AM
Very nice dramatic clouds!   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on February 25, 2013, 07:52:27 PM
Tanya....gorgeous clouds!  :heeha: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Pebble on April 20, 2013, 03:19:54 PM
Here is my effort with painting everyday clouds - perhaps a bit dramatic but looking forward this weeks dramatic clouds when I can really go for it  :heeha:

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Denise808 on April 20, 2013, 05:36:02 PM
Really nice shading and contrasts in those clouds!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: The landscape looks great too so I like the way you were able to still keep the sky as the focal point :)  Very cool. 8)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on April 20, 2013, 09:22:41 PM
Very nicely done. Nothing wrong with those clouds.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Sarah (arch) on April 20, 2013, 09:38:53 PM
Oh my!! I think I have this lesson in my queue. But clouds are my nemesis. You did soooooo very well!  :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Bev S. on April 20, 2013, 09:51:53 PM
Judy Collins sang:
I've looked at clouds from both sides now
 From up and down and still somehow
 It's cloud's illusions I recall
 I really don't know clouds at all.
Well, it looks as if everyone here really does know clouds, and knows them very well. I am so looking forward to doing this class hope my clouds will be half a good as these ones!! O0 O0 O0
 
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on April 21, 2013, 12:38:02 AM
Oi !  :eyesclosed: Clouds....'nuff said.  :faint:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Pebble on April 21, 2013, 04:45:16 PM
 :thankyou: all so much for your comments and encouragement, more dramatic clouds to do now - can't wait  O0
Title: Everyday clouds
Post by: scribe on April 21, 2013, 05:25:21 PM
Finally got a piece done that I was happy to share. This was my 4th attempt. This wet in wet technique is difficult - as far as creating clouds go. Will have to do a lot more skies before I will be really comfortable with this. :(

Title: Re: Everyday clouds
Post by: Val on April 21, 2013, 09:32:52 PM
Wow!  :heeha:  Some great billowing cumulus. Super job.  :clap:   :clap:
Title: Re: Everyday clouds
Post by: Lillian on April 21, 2013, 10:06:05 PM
I just went through your gallery.  You're doing nice work with the watercolours!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Everyday clouds
Post by: Sarah (arch) on April 21, 2013, 10:10:08 PM
Love the clouds!!!  :clap: And listen to the woman who's life depends on being able to recognize and read the clouds. Fortunately it does not depend her ability to paint them. :whistle:
Title: Re: Everyday clouds
Post by: Georgia-Rose Greer on April 23, 2013, 04:17:07 AM
]Great clouds!!  They remind me of the pillar of clouds that led the children of Isreal through the desert, from Sunday school. Lol I hope to do as well!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: polliwag on April 26, 2013, 12:14:04 AM
Super clouds here from everyone!!!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jrhall036 on June 10, 2013, 01:11:01 AM
Boy, did my paper buckle when I did this painting! I kinda like the way this one came out, though. Any comments or criticisms are greatly appreciated!

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on June 10, 2013, 01:14:59 AM
Very well done Jani.  O0 The clouds are excellent, and you have a great spotlight effect on the mount. Super!
 :heeha: :heeha: :heeha:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: polliwag on June 10, 2013, 01:17:20 AM
Superb looking clouds, Jani! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on June 10, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
I have no comments to make  :clap: :clap: :clap: Excellent O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jrhall036 on June 10, 2013, 03:16:27 AM
Aw shucks!  You make me :blush:  Val, Diane, and Dennis:  :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou:.  I was nervous about this lesson, but I really had a lot of fun!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on June 10, 2013, 10:26:45 AM
 :surrender: Just a warning Jani! Dennis said it is 'excellent' ..... so, DON'T touch it! EVER!! Otherwise you'll be getting the  :knuppel2: too.  :eek:
 :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: lynn p. on June 10, 2013, 11:27:50 AM
Wow, That is one gorgeous painting Jani :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: polliwag on June 10, 2013, 11:41:56 AM
Karen, wonderful job...I hope to one day be able to do this good on a paint along.   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
Nina,  love your blue sky showing through.  Makes for a wonderful kind of day.. Great painting!
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jrhall036 on June 10, 2013, 12:46:07 PM
 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: Val, no way!! I won't touch it! Don't want to upset the long arm of the law!  :knuppel2: Dennis might  :twoguns: me.

Lynn,  :thankyou: sweetie!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: njnjgirl on June 10, 2013, 12:52:31 PM
 O0 O0 Excellent! O0 O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Tania on June 10, 2013, 04:12:20 PM
Nicely done, Jani!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jrhall036 on June 10, 2013, 07:52:28 PM
 :thankyou: :thankyou: For your kind words Mary Lou and Tania!!   :1hug:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Happychappy on June 10, 2013, 08:07:28 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:  Just had a look at all the cloud paintings which are excellently done.  Jani you captured them so dramatically.  Fantastic work and well done to you all.  I haven't done this lesson yet ... makes me think that there is so much I still have to do.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jrhall036 on June 10, 2013, 11:16:49 PM
 :thankyou: Patricia  :1hug:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Denise808 on June 11, 2013, 02:26:46 AM
Yes!! EXCELLENT :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on June 11, 2013, 05:16:42 AM
jrhall036

Beautiful sky of clouds.   Would be fun to just lie down and find shapes in the clouds like one would do on a lazy summer afternoon.

Nice colors - hues and tones.

aloha
mea
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jrhall036 on June 11, 2013, 12:22:13 PM
Bless you, Denise and Mea!  :thankyou: :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on June 16, 2013, 06:47:58 PM
Ooooooo!!!  Excellent work, Jani!   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on July 23, 2013, 03:46:47 AM

Here are my everyday clouds - not my best work but it was a good exercise - however I much prefer the dramatic clouds!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Denise808 on July 23, 2013, 04:10:10 AM
Wow, nice! You really do good work Sharon :)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on July 23, 2013, 02:56:49 PM
Thanks, Denise...Dennis makes it easy to follow him!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jrhall036 on July 23, 2013, 06:12:45 PM
What an impressive sky, Sharon!   :clap: :clap: :clap: I've actually seen a sky just like this in Idaho. Awesome!!!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Happychappy on July 23, 2013, 09:04:40 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Sharon, your clouds are excellent.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on July 24, 2013, 01:02:56 AM
Awesome clouds, Sharon!   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Tony (ASM) on July 28, 2013, 06:28:51 PM
They are awesome clouds! I agree with Lillian.  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: NHC50 on July 28, 2013, 09:02:40 PM
Coooooooool!!! looking clouds Sharon.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: cyril on July 31, 2013, 03:32:17 PM
Hi  :D


 :D
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Ray3 on July 31, 2013, 04:13:08 PM
1st Sharon very well done your clouds are remarkable very realistic you are doing great please keep it up :smitten:

2nd Cyril you are coming along very well you are getting a lot of paintings in also keep up the great work but please slow down I cannot keep up with you  :D


Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: cyril on July 31, 2013, 06:19:04 PM

 :D

 :thankyou:

i have recently started posting  them  :D ....since i started the classes one month ago ..... :D

 :D :D
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Fencepost on August 19, 2013, 08:00:50 PM
Okay, so I watched the video carefully, have taken several days to prepare the sketch, paints, and paper. (The slow pace of preparation reflects the degree of my anxiety  :heeha:)

This morning brush was applied to paper. I tried to emulate Dennis's rapid brushwork.  :2funny:

My over-wetted paper is now dry. I'm not fast enough. I'm taking a walk in the sunshine to the nearest eatery for lunch. Then I'll decide if this lesson can be salvaged. Watercolor is a harsh mistress.  :help:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on August 19, 2013, 10:18:32 PM
 :2funny: Judie, I'm working on the hake brush lesson .....  :hang: as you can see, I'm doing quite well!  :2funny: You went to lunch...I am out to lunch....I went to rum!  :2funny:


 :gl2:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Fencepost on August 19, 2013, 11:07:11 PM
Did lunch. Now hard cider, atomizer, brush and paint. Not sure which goes in me and which on the paper. If this keeps up, Val, I'll match your rum with a big glass of gin and join your out to lunch bunch. :welcome: :tickedoff:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on August 19, 2013, 11:24:05 PM
OOOoooo I'd love a nice gin.  :cloud9: Not in the right spot to find 'drinkable' gin, rum by the barrel...but no gin.  :(
Just spent another 1/2 hour and got 10 more minutes of video.  :crazy2: Think I'm going to call it for the day.
4 1/2 hours and only halfway through. Another day tomorrow  :yippee:    :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Happychappy on August 20, 2013, 12:34:45 PM
 O0 O0 O0  Nicely done Cyril.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on August 20, 2013, 12:42:48 PM
Very nice work, Cyril!   :clap: :clap: :clap:


Judie, don't forget you can hit the pause button on the replay and you can even 're-wind' the video!
Happy  :painting:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Fencepost on August 22, 2013, 06:05:48 PM
It is as finished as it will ever be. No further comment.  :)

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on August 22, 2013, 09:26:46 PM
Judie, an excellent painting indeed. Love the cliffs and bright sunny hillside :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jrhall036 on August 22, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
Very nice, Judie!!  :clap: :clap: :clap: See? I told you it was going to turn out better than you thought!  :yippee: Nice clouds and love your rock cliff!!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Fencepost on August 22, 2013, 10:12:53 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis and Jani. You are very kind.

Dennis, remember how in this lesson you talked about seeing things in the clouds? I have always loved doing that. No matter how I try to block it out, I keep seeing a dog with his ears back, sneezing all over the sky in my painting.  :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on August 22, 2013, 10:23:23 PM
Took me some time to figure it out - but I got it :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on August 23, 2013, 01:00:28 AM
Nicely done Judie  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:            :confused: I'm not seeing your dog....but I do see a big bird, looks like he's sitting on a bush of some kind.  ;D
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Fencepost on August 23, 2013, 10:06:10 PM
 :2funny: Val!!! Now I see the bird, too. The head of the dog I see is outlined by the bird's folded wing and the dark line below. His nose is at the point where the shadows of the large clouds begin...that's the sneeze.

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lillian on August 24, 2013, 12:20:16 AM
 :confused:  All I see is a very nice painting!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: NHC50 on August 30, 2013, 04:01:55 PM
Judie, Nice job. Sorry but I don't see anything in the clouds. Maybe I am not high enough.  :2funny: :2funny:
Good job.  O0 O0
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Fencepost on August 30, 2013, 04:36:45 PM
 :thankyou: Nina. One step at a time. Baby steps. On to dramatic clouds...
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on August 30, 2013, 05:39:29 PM
Maybe I am not high enough.  :2funny: :2funny:

Maybe that's it Nina.... I don't know what that guy next door is burning, but everybody around here sure is happy!  :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: NHC50 on August 30, 2013, 07:32:07 PM
 :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: Val  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: richkay on February 28, 2014, 05:26:18 PM
Here are my watercolor paintings for this week.
This was painted on 140# paper and the paper got wavy.
This was painted on 300# paper and the wet in to wet was easier to control.

I wish more people were taking the beginning water color classes at this time.
Please comment on my paintings.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on February 28, 2014, 06:27:52 PM
Nice work, Rich.

I'd love to be taking art classes right now, rather than the ones I am taking to be a substitute teacher!  (Have to take the course even though I was a master teacher for 23 years!)

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on March 01, 2014, 05:19:23 AM
Richkay, Both paintings are very good. :clap: :clap: :clap: Lovely sky for the second one,
Yes, 140# paper need to be stretched before using wet in wet.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Happychappy on March 01, 2014, 09:09:51 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Rich, lovely paintings of the clouds.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lisa From Oto on March 01, 2014, 11:13:29 PM
Clouds look great Rich.  :clap: I like the hint of rain in the clouds in the first one  :)

Wow Mea I just stopped teaching full time and am relieving now, but we don't have to take a course to do so!  :o
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on March 02, 2014, 12:46:11 AM
Lisa,

The substitute course is MANDATORY in Hawaii - even if you have taught all your life outside of Hawaii. 


I am now putting a website together of all the materials I have written over the years to help parents teach kids to think.  It should help us in subbing.  I'll let you know when it's ready for viewing.

aloha

mea

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lisa From Oto on March 02, 2014, 01:16:21 AM
Wow good on you, I am having trouble even sorting out my spare room where all my resources ended up at the end of the year  ;D let a lone finding time to do that.   I need to do it soon though because I have been struggling to find things I need for different classes when I know very well I have them :tickedoff:  8)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on March 04, 2014, 02:40:39 PM
You may not be alone for long Rich... I'm coming back to have another go at earlier lessons.  You succeeded much better than I did on this one.

Lovely skies, good spotlighting to show off and hold attention to the central section of the painting.  O0

 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Ai Ke on April 27, 2014, 03:21:58 PM
 :2funny: Those discussions on dogs and birds in the clouds!

Here is my effort at it. Somehow I made the middle foreground into an exaggerated Romantic Era piece - it just misses a big swan and a reclining youth with all life's sorrows resting on his shoulders.

I'll adjust the hills a bit, because they are too similar, but now I am off to a good dinner! :wave:

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on April 27, 2014, 04:29:38 PM
Ai Ke,

I like how you have the sky so dominate in this piece.  Really nice believable sky.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on April 27, 2014, 05:42:47 PM
Ai Ke, I like the whole scene. You've done a great job with it. Nice billowy clouds coming over the horizon, and I really like that little bit of added drama in the foreground.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on April 27, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
Wow Rich and Ai Ke those are great painting :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on April 28, 2014, 12:57:26 AM
Ai Ke, Excellent sky and clouds as well as the mountain.  :clap: :clap: :clap: I stopped on the side of the road to take a picture of this mountain in the north of the North Island.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on April 28, 2014, 12:00:12 PM
Beautiful country side Dennis.  Love those mountains.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on June 18, 2014, 07:42:18 PM
Here is my attempt at clouds,  not so good.  Your comments are welcome as always to better myself.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on June 18, 2014, 08:56:44 PM
Danielle, a very nice painting :clap: :clap: :clap: What I am missing are the greens in the hillsides. New Zealand has a lot of different greens O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on June 18, 2014, 11:04:34 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis for taking the time to view and comment on my painting.   I will add some green in my painting,  but i am still not too found of my clouds.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on June 19, 2014, 11:03:18 PM
You could try softening some of the hard edges if you aren't happy with them Danielle.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on June 20, 2014, 02:37:35 AM
 :thankyou:  Natalie, I tried to do some changes to the clouds and i like it  even less. I though I would redo the whole painting.  Need the practice anyways.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on June 20, 2014, 09:48:39 PM
I have done 2 paintings of the clouds, the first is the one I have done the corrections on mountain colours and clouds. The second is a new version,   Still having a hard time with clouds.

   
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on June 21, 2014, 12:16:24 AM
I think they look fine Danielle.   :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on June 21, 2014, 01:23:57 AM
Danielle, clouds are not easy for the beginner - even to some along the road :whistle:
Your clouds are such that you are on the verge of a breakthrough :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on June 21, 2014, 03:49:33 AM
 :thankyou: so much Dennis, that is encouragement, i will go to the next cloud course and see how that one will go.
  :thankyou: Natalie for the encouragement.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: cyril on June 21, 2014, 11:59:01 AM
Beautifull cloud painting Danielle  and Ai ke …  :clap:  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on June 21, 2014, 05:15:37 PM
I remember how hard this lesson was for me, Danielle…but with practice my clouds have really improved, as will yours. This is a great start!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on June 24, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
 :thankyou: Cyril and Sharron for your encouragement.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: forest friends on June 25, 2014, 10:12:16 PM
My attempt. How do I get the distant mountains to look more realistic? I am having soo much trouble with rocky surfaces.
Thanks for any help!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Ai Ke on June 26, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
Let me say first that I like your painting a lot!
It is very stylized in a way, but from your comment I gather you would like to get it a bit less stylized.

If you want to make it look more realistic, i.e. less stylized, I think it will help to have the lines in your mountains less straight, a bit more wobbly, for instance the top is quite a straight line on your painting.

Even though, it may be your signature style and strength and you may not want to change it... because honestly, I really like it the way it is! :cheering:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on June 26, 2014, 06:09:45 PM
Looks fine-if you want a softer effect blend away a hard edge.  Keep up with the lessons-you will be doing more of them!  ;)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on June 27, 2014, 11:51:45 AM
Marion I'm so sorry-I didn't see yours!

My guess is that the Payne's gray is made up of those colors-I don't know.

Nice job on your clouds.  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on June 28, 2014, 12:06:46 PM
Dennis shows how to mix 'blacks' to prevent the dead look or feeling with straight out black.  Part of the charm of watercolors is that some colors will separate-the sedimentary colors especially like ultramarine blue.  Another reason he limits the palette is to help us learn what our colors will do-if they are staining etc...

I like Payne's gray-I've never noticed it separating on me-it could just be a difference in manufacturers.

You are not doing anything wrong, and the paint is behaving the way watercolors do.  Go with the flow of things.

 O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kedde on September 16, 2014, 05:31:02 PM

This one was a "saver" it went all over the place, scrubbing so much I destroyed the paper in some places. Misplaced my raw sienna, used burnt sienna instead so the palette is a bit different than what Dennis showed. This one is about clouds, critique is welcome.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on September 16, 2014, 07:01:13 PM
Kedde,

I like how you painted the thick, billowy clouds.  Good job.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on September 16, 2014, 08:12:32 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on September 16, 2014, 08:21:48 PM
Kedde, I like it when one does not give up very easily O0
Beautiful clean painting :clap: :clap: :clap: Next time try not to get those parallel lines in the clouds so evenly spaced. Beter still modify the lines so that they are not completely parallel. Other than that -excellent :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kedde on September 17, 2014, 05:15:31 AM
 :thankyou: all. And I will check on the skies next time when the painting. And sure it's clean painting, with all the scrubbing ;).
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on September 17, 2014, 11:19:55 AM
Kedde i realy like your painting.  Your  clouds are very nice.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

   I have tried twice and I did not like them, i will have to do them a third time.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kedde on September 17, 2014, 11:38:54 AM
Oh Danielle have I struggled with clouds in the past, Dennis is really doing great job explaining how to do it. Even then you can see that the coulds I made are to parallel and uniform, at the time of painting I have to spot that and correct. Experience Danielle, keep on going, put your works up for critique. Pratice :fight: and feedback :smart: is the only way forward. But anyhow thanks alot for your encouragement.  :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on September 17, 2014, 11:40:59 AM
 O0 Kedde.
Here  you gave me the courage to redo my lesson on clouds. Here is the cloud i have just corrected using a new technique to clean off what is not good that Dennis showed us in an other course.   
I also wripped some paper on the left side of the mountain with the rocks then tried to correct it.  Although my paper  had no more tooth i prefer my new clouds.
First one is the  new correction with the same bottom part only the clouds are redone.    second one is my first one.
.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on September 18, 2014, 12:43:29 AM
Two seperate paintings or you adjusted the first one?

Either way great job!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on September 18, 2014, 03:09:13 AM
 :thankyou:      Same painting Natalie but redid the clouds by removing the pigments then dit that part again.   
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lisa From Oto on September 18, 2014, 04:59:29 AM
 :clap: second clouds show heaps of improvement   :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kedde on September 18, 2014, 05:16:10 AM
Be proud Danielle! I think you did a fantastic rework! The skies looks very naturalistic, w/c believable.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on September 18, 2014, 12:13:58 PM
 :thankyou: Lisa and Kedde for your lovely comments and encouragement. 
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on September 18, 2014, 07:37:30 PM
Bravissimo Danielle!!!! The revised clouds are magnificent.  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on September 18, 2014, 10:47:54 PM
Wow Danielle that it is the same painting is very impressive. :congrats:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: sally13 on September 18, 2014, 11:27:06 PM
Well done Danielle. :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on September 19, 2014, 12:48:29 AM
 :thankyou: Val, Natalie and Sally for your nice comments. 
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on September 19, 2014, 02:39:33 AM
Danielle, actually both clouds are very good :clap: :clap: :clap: Remember that clouds differ so much on style and shapes.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on September 19, 2014, 02:54:15 AM
 :thankyou: Dennis, i guess it is because I like the soft look.    :thankyou: again.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Judylh on September 19, 2014, 04:07:39 AM
I really loved doing this one ... clouds fascinate me! It is so fun going through the forum and seeing all the amazing pieces posted ... every one's painting are so unique ... I just love it! Awesome job everyone!

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on September 19, 2014, 04:16:40 AM
 :thankyou: Judith and you did an awsome job on your clouds. :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on September 19, 2014, 05:02:20 AM
Judy, very nice clouds :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Judylh on September 19, 2014, 11:57:21 AM
 :thankyou: Dennis and Danielle!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on September 19, 2014, 12:00:06 PM
Nice work Judy  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jillh on October 02, 2014, 07:14:25 PM
My 2 attemps at painting everyday clouds.  I need lots more practice reading the wetness of the paper.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on October 02, 2014, 08:06:39 PM
 Jill I think they both look great-you are being too critical of yourself.  O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: C.Bodine on October 02, 2014, 10:08:54 PM
I agree with Natalie. You did a very good job on the clouds!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: sally13 on October 02, 2014, 10:14:24 PM
Your clouds look great :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on October 02, 2014, 11:29:23 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: Nice clouds Jill, i like the soft look of your clouds.   Learning to read the paper is quite a challenge is it not! also the weather makes a difference don' you think!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on October 02, 2014, 11:58:03 PM
Looks like fun  just playing with the clouds.  Nice.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on October 03, 2014, 06:14:23 AM
Jill, no problem with your clouds :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jillh on October 03, 2014, 05:11:40 PM
Natalie.  :thankyou:  It's the Virgo in me :)

Thank you for commenting Christina, Sally, Danielle (yes! I agree.), Mea and Dennis. 
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Sherri on October 21, 2014, 02:55:23 AM
My submission for Lesson 7.  All I can say is that I am struggling but not ready to give up yet!!!!   :hang: :surrender:
 Suggestions please

Sherri

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on October 21, 2014, 12:14:41 PM
Looks like productive struggling, Sherri.  I had trouble, too.  Now everytime I am outside, I study cloud patterns, then think how I could draw or paint them. 

My favorite way to do clouds for practice is the pencil drawing way (really smudging) that Nolan uses in the seascape lesson with the lighthouse.   Really helpful.

Keep at it - your work is getting better all the time.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on October 21, 2014, 03:05:22 PM
Your sky is beautiful!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on October 30, 2014, 03:20:04 PM
Sherri, you and I are in the same boat!  :boat:   ;D  If my clouds turn out...it's just a happy accident!   :whistle:  I am glad to see I'm not the only one that enjoys purplish skies!  :heeha: 

Nicely done.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Sherri on October 30, 2014, 03:51:53 PM
Thanks Val - I will have to only paint colorful skies!!!!!

Sherri
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lidiya on January 29, 2015, 06:56:45 PM
Here is my attempt at Everyday clouds. :) I was pretty sure to struggle with clouds but actually struggled with a cliff. This little guy did not want to became 3D and light in colour.  :knuppel2: I left it alone.
Really enjoyed painting clouds, did not expect such outcome. For sure, watercolour is a living and unpredictable medium. :smitten:
All the best.
Lidiya.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on January 29, 2015, 07:37:06 PM
Lidiya,

Nice attempt at everyday clouds.  I find watercolor clouds more difficult to do than oil or pencil.

I like your different shades of greenery.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: ncwren on January 29, 2015, 10:46:17 PM
Nice and fluffy!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Bellarina on January 30, 2015, 01:44:49 AM
 O0
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jillh on January 30, 2015, 02:38:06 AM
Great every day clouds!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on January 30, 2015, 02:52:17 AM
Sherri (nice stormy) and Lidiya ( nice fluffy) your clouds are beautifull and they can be tricky to do.  Well done :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on January 30, 2015, 04:10:03 AM
Excellent painting, Lidiya. Beautiful clouds.  :clap: :clap: :clap:  You just need the sunlight on the, mountain O0

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on February 01, 2015, 01:45:03 AM
Beautiful clouds Lidiya  O0 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lidiya on February 21, 2015, 05:25:46 AM
 :thankyou: Dennis for your kind remark on my painting. Will try again to work on the cliff.
 :thankyou: Val. I am not sure if I am able to repeat such clouds in the similar way I did.  :( It was a lot of play around with different colours. Time will tell.
All the best.  :)
Lidiya.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: jillh on February 21, 2015, 05:46:26 AM
Beautiful clouds, Lidiya.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on February 21, 2015, 01:23:12 PM
:thankyou: Val. I am not sure if I am able to repeat such clouds in the similar way I did.  :( It was a lot of play around with different colours. Time will tell.

Not to worry Lidiya..... I still can't paint the same way twice!!!  :crazy2:     :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Lidiya on February 22, 2015, 08:03:54 PM
 :thankyou: Jill.
Hey Val, what else we can expect from watercolours?!  :2funny:
Every time I look at my w/c pictures I wonder it was me who painted them or it was just w/c own action. :2funny: :crazy2:
All the best.
Lidiya. :wave:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on February 25, 2015, 08:55:30 AM
:thankyou: Jill.
Hey Val, what else we can expect from watercolours?!  :2funny:
I wonder it was me who painted them or it was just w/c own action. :2funny: :crazy2:
:heeha: Exciting isn't it?!!!  ;D
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Tania on February 25, 2015, 09:38:46 PM
Lidya - great job on the clouds!  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Tousabella on February 25, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
 :flowers: Lydia.....wonderful attempt...love your colors, and your clouds are great!  Looks really good....I like it!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on May 18, 2015, 01:48:43 PM
Painting no 1
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on May 18, 2015, 01:50:55 PM
Painting no 2. I'm leaving this for a while and then I will try again. :coffee:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Bellarina on May 18, 2015, 02:13:23 PM
I like your first one better
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Danielle123 on May 18, 2015, 05:26:15 PM
Nice painting Louisa.    I personaly like the top one more because of the colours in the mountain.   Clouds are not easy to do in the beginning.  You are doing great. :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on May 18, 2015, 06:06:03 PM
Hmmm... I like parts of both.

Top - Like the craggy cliffs and pile of rocks on the right.

Bottom - Like the shrub on the right and mid-ground grasses and ridgeline.

Yes, clouds take plenty of practice.  I use the dabbing-with-a-Kleenex technique for clouds in watercolor.

Keep going - better each time.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Tousabella on May 18, 2015, 08:04:39 PM
Lousia...both are so interesting.  Great job.  I love them both.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Louisa Rautenbach on May 27, 2015, 06:35:13 AM
Robin, Danielle, Mea and Retta, sorry I missed your lovely comments on this one. Now I can say thank you so much. :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Straynative on March 07, 2016, 09:22:09 PM
I honestly tried this lesson about 5 times and every time my clouds looked overworked and, well, just awful. I was getting a bit depressed as I have made a deal with myself to not go onto the next lesson until I at least get some sort of semblance of what is required from the lesson I am busy with. Lots of areas in this one that I could have done better, BUT, i feel they are passable and whilst they maybe arent the most "natural" looking clouds ive ever seen, they certainly are at least cloud like and not splodgy splodges like my previous ones. Learnt plenty from this lesson and look forward to the sunset clouds coming up  :fight:  8)

thanks Dennis and Nolan.


Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on March 07, 2016, 11:55:29 PM
Trev,

I like the blending of the terrain and the trees.

Yes, clouds take time to master.  The one on the far left in the middle looks like the face of Santa Claus wearing dark glasses.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Tania on March 08, 2016, 03:18:00 AM
Good for you, Trev! The clouds are definitely getting there and everything else looks good! I am now seeing all kinds of critters in the clouds, Mea! :D They are really quite interesting to look at!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Straynative on March 08, 2016, 04:23:18 AM
 >:D yes I see that now...and of course there's the alligator/dolphin thing right in the middle of the sky. Mm maybe I should just take most of the peep holes out as they do distract a bit too much. Lol anyway thanks ladies...
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Happychappy on March 08, 2016, 10:21:36 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Trev, you are doing well.  You did a great job of blending. Clouds, I haven't done this lesson so can't even begin to give my humble opinion.


Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on March 09, 2016, 10:31:10 PM
 :heeha: Great job on the clouds Trev!  :clap: :clap: :clap:   You've created some real depth in the painting as a whole. Well done.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 22, 2016, 06:51:42 AM
 :pullhair:  :help: I have attempted this wet on wet for the sky and clouds 3 times. They have all been awful. I am completely frustrated trying to understand how to manipulate the medium and to get my colors. When too wet, they all run and I get star bursts. Too dry and it does not blend. :confused:

This last one I posted was less wet but but not as dry and the blending is ugly. My sky in the corner has too much pigment and the edges are a mess. When I used less pigment it looked blotchy.  I think I need to go more basic before I attempt this lesson for the 4th time.   :-\

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: thebryce on May 22, 2016, 06:59:29 AM
What paper is that?  It looks like the strathmore yellow pad grain.  Your pigment is doing weird things on it.  Take a spray bottle and wet the entire surface. Then take a paper towel, lay it over the painting and sop up the excess pigment. Do that a few times to pull back the values. You should by then notice where you can darken the colors to make some great cloud patterns.  Part of making clouds is learning  to see them as a three dimensional object.  You may need to go on the internet and study perspective with the sky.  Most of us, when we did this lesson way back in the day, made the clouds as if they were sheets on a cloths line. Change the way you look at the sky in proportion to the rocks. You need to have depth in the sky. You need to have hard lines and soft lines with clouds and if they are not in the proper spot you will cause the eye to focus on the wrong area of the cloud or the wrong area of the sky.  Think depth.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 22, 2016, 07:05:04 AM
Yes, that is what I'm using. wow, you sure know your paper, Bryce!  :heeha:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 22, 2016, 07:07:58 AM
Would a different paper make a difference? If so, which one?
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: thebryce on May 22, 2016, 08:17:04 AM

The paper and grain does matter
when you are fairly new at water color.

The Strathmore red spiral has great sizing and a different texture; It is my favorite box store WC paper. It can be scrubbed with a brillo pad almost and still be repainted on; Amazing stuff.

The brown Strathmore 400 paper is not bad.

The yellow Strathmore 300 pad is weird. The yellow pad paper is almost water resistant at times; it has an odd quality that one must get use to. The grain is odd too.

Arches blocks seem to be the hot item now days but I would never pay the price for a block.  I would just go purchase  300 pound water color paper by the sheet and enjoy a better paper overall.

For the clouds lesson I used Canson the 300 gsm blue pad and was not pleased with the results.


Canson paper is the most inexpensive paper I have found. Available at Walmart,  and holds up the worst under a wet on wet painting. It is very smooth paper but not as smooth as bristol paper.


 There are no errors allowed on the Canson WC paper.


Canson is great for pen and pencil when bristol is not available.

Canson makes good paper for other things but they fail in the WC department in my book, as a beginner.

Fabriano is supposed to be good paper but I have not tried it and they have several grades as well.


The USA Hobbie Lobby WC paper has a horizontal grain that is weird. The paper is very touchy and you better not try to fix any errors on it by scrubbing or it will  tear.



Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 22, 2016, 03:19:18 PM
 :thankyou:  :thankyou:  :thankyou: Bryce! I am going to go to the store today and get a different paper. You are exactly right about the Strathmore Yellow. For the wet on wet, it was resistant to allowing the watercolor to flow and spread. I got very weird blotchy results.

I will post again after I get my new paper.  :deal:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 23, 2016, 06:11:28 AM
  :D What an unbelievable difference it makes using the right watercolor paper. Bryce, you have no idea how much I appreciate your leading me to the right paper. I bought the Strathmore red series. The texture of this paper was so much more agreeable to work with.   :yippee:

I do have a LOT to learn about painting clouds but this 4th attempt has me more optimistic. As Dennis said earlier today, it is by our struggles and mistakes that we really learn and grow. I welcome any suggestions for improvement. Good night, my dear PB friends.  :sleep:

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on May 23, 2016, 06:25:22 AM
Oh, yes, Kathy.  Big improvement. Finding success like that makes it so motivating to want to paint all the more.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: thebryce on May 23, 2016, 08:53:34 AM
I love the clouds.  The entire painting seems to have come together nicely.  :yippee:


 That Strathmore Red Windpower series is good stuff. Wait until you start using masking fluid on it. The masking fluid stays right where you want it and wont tear off when it is time to peel it away.  Techniques that require lifting are a breeze with that paper as well.


Next on your list will be highly pigmented water color paint; Professional grade. :painting:


For me, I still use the left over three year old beginner paint I originally purchased at Walmart but I have begun to mix in a tube or two of the really good stuff. :smart:


 When I botch a painting with the poor pigmented paint I end up being forced to use cheap Gouache to cover up the errors.   When I add up the the two low quality student grade paints I know in hind site that I could have purchased a few tubes of the good stuff, but what did I know back then? I never thought I would become an addict to drawing and painting.  :knuppel2:


I have yet to do a review of the really good paint because I can't afford to purchase enough brands to rate them yet.  Oh, then there are the brushes.... :nosey:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 23, 2016, 05:36:55 PM
 :thankyou: for the kudos, Bryce. The painting did come together after all, with your help.  :yippee:

Having the correct tools to work with is everything! I agree about the paint. I have mostly Winsor Newman's Cotman which is a level 2 grade. As I use up my colors, I am replacing with artist grade.

I inherited a bunch of my Mom's art supplies so I have quite a collection of brushes. Some are very nice. I just don't know what to do with them yet.  :P In due time!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Happychappy on May 25, 2016, 12:37:11 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Kathy your painting turned out beautifully. Very well done.


 :thankyou: :thankyou:  Bryce for all the wonderful information on what papers to use. In fact, I was experimenting with mixed media paper this weekend as an alternative to hot pressed paper which is sooooo expensive and it was horrible.  Do you perhaps know of a cheaper alternative to use in place of the hot pressed paper? I just find that to pay such high prices for paper when we are practising is a true waste of money. I also found that the mixed media paper was a bit rough for graphite too.   Patricia

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: thebryce on May 26, 2016, 04:41:04 AM
What if you broke down and bought a paper stretcher or just started stretching paper?


The other option for me for practice only,  I will from time to time break down and use the Canson 300gsm 140 lbs Blue Pad Water paper or the Michael's brand paper.


 I know i  said that it is not the best paper but it is so inexpensive that I will use it for stuff I know I  wont care if I ruin or for stuff that I am sure I can tackle on any paper surface.  I go to Walmart or Hobby Lobby and use my 40% coupon.  It is better in my mind than the Canson Mixed Media pad.


The better WC paint will flow with less water so sometimes the cheap paper can be fought through.  Sadly, I want to paint every day and never get to because of life issues, so I just keep doodling.     :fight:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 27, 2016, 07:12:14 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap:  Kathy your painting turned out beautifully. Very well done.



Thank you, Patricia  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Happychappy on May 28, 2016, 11:28:06 AM
 :thankyou:  Bryce for your message and I do use Canson 300g watercolor paper for most of my paintings but I was trying out some botanical paintings and you do need the hot pressed paper which is smoother for the fine detail. Anyway, I shall plod along and experiment and hopefully, I will find a cheaper alternative. Would love to see some of your paintings but I understand how much life can get in the way of our hobbies.


Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Steve Weatherwax on May 28, 2016, 11:32:48 PM
Good job, Kathy. :clap::clap: I don't know how I missed your posting. Must've fallen asleep at the switch. Sorry for the tardy reply.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 28, 2016, 11:43:16 PM
 :thankyou: Thank you, Steve! It was one of the toughest lessons I've done ( other than perspectives  :tongue:) . It was worth the struggle though because I learned a lot!  :)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Straynative on May 29, 2016, 01:45:26 PM
Nice Kath, I found that lesson really tough, good job!
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 29, 2016, 02:00:05 PM
Nice Kath, I found that lesson really tough, good job!

 :thankyou: Thanks Trev. I found it to be tough too.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on May 31, 2016, 03:23:15 PM
Well done and good on you for sticking with it Kathy.  O0    :clap: :clap: :clap:

Paper can make or break a painting as can the quality of paints. When I started, I used a very cheap Reeves w/c set I found in Trinidad, and the paper... I can't even remember what it was other than horrid. I eventually graduated up to a Cotman #140 CP block and paints. They were like heaven! A lot of my beginning lessons were done using those materials. Another was The Langton by Daler Rowney #140 CP pad. I did struggle a lot with The Langton paper. I now use Arches #140 CP exclusively at least until I run out. Two years ago Lloyd bought me a whole role and had it sent to us while in the US Virgin Islands. It was so easy to have things sent there from us mainland. Prior to that i used whatever i could find. I did find some good papers in a tiny art shop in Martinique. I miss that little shop...they had everything jammed in that little space!

Try different papers and find one that best suits you. The same applies to different paints and brushes. Explore and experiment until you find the combination that works best for you....and have fun along the way.

Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kathysutterlin on May 31, 2016, 07:16:34 PM
Well done and good on you for sticking with it Kathy.  O0    :clap: :clap: :clap:

Paper can make or break a painting as can the quality of paints. When I started, I used a very cheap Reeves w/c set I found in Trinidad, and the paper... I can't even remember what it was other than horrid. I eventually graduated up to a Cotman #140 CP block and paints. They were like heaven! A lot of my beginning lessons were done using those materials. Another was The Langton by Daler Rowney #140 CP pad. I did struggle a lot with The Langton paper. I now use Arches #140 CP exclusively at least until I run out. Two years ago Lloyd bought me a whole role and had it sent to us while in the US Virgin Islands. It was so easy to have things sent there from us mainland. Prior to that i used whatever i could find. I did find some good papers in a tiny art shop in Martinique. I miss that little shop...they had everything jammed in that little space!

Try different papers and find one that best suits you. The same applies to different paints and brushes. Explore and experiment until you find the combination that works best for you....and have fun along the way.

 :thankyou: Val for all the info on paper and paint. I am going to look into the Arches paper. You are the second person who has recommended it to me. It really is important to have the right supplies to produce quality work!  ;)
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Annie. on July 30, 2016, 07:45:02 PM
Thank you Dennis for explaining so well such a challenging topic.
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Val on July 30, 2016, 09:53:25 PM
 :heeha: Well done Annie. You are leagues ahead of where I was at this stage!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: dennis on July 30, 2016, 11:02:28 PM
Excellent clouds, Nina :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Kathysutterlin on July 31, 2016, 05:23:18 AM
 :heeha: Excellent work, Annie! Your clouds are perfect.  :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: MaryAnne Long on July 31, 2016, 05:41:00 AM
Annie

You are like the Energizer Bunny of painting today.  Wow, so many paintings you posted and all GOOD!

Way to go, girl.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #7 - How to Paint Clouds
Post by: Annie. on August 01, 2016, 12:29:24 PM
 :thankyou: Val, Dennis, Kathy, and Mea!

You really gave me the energy to keep  :painting: