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Title: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on June 21, 2011, 10:26:58 PM
Angela has sent me her first drawings to post, so here they are :


Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on June 21, 2011, 10:49:57 PM
Hey Angela, first off all, :bigwelcome: to the site and the course.

You sure are off to a blazing start, have you done some drawing before?

Both these drawings are bright, so I suspect they were lightened post scan or due to the scanner settings, which means all their mid tone highlights have disappeared. But from the quality of your shading I know they are visible in the original drawings O0

I am 100% happy with your rock drawing I wouldn't change a thing there. You have grasped the concept of the planes and executed them perfectly. Well done :clap:

On your berry drawing, which is also excellent by the way, I have two suggestions on how you can improve the drawing :

1) Be carefull when working around an object, like when drawing the shadow of the stem. Even though you are drawing the shadow of the stem, the shadow is falling on the table. So your strokes must follow the plane of the table, not the stem otherwise it looks like the shadow is curling around the stem. This then has the effect of "fusing" them together and you you effectively lose the distance you are trying to create with the shadow. I hope that makes sense? What you would want to do is smooth the strokes in the shadow so that there are no more visible lines. The table is flat and smooth, so the shadow must be flat and smooth.

2) You can soften the inside edge of the reflected light as shown by the arrow. This will show the reflected light becomes less as the berry curves away from the reflected light. It is a very subtle shading, but I can see you have mastered the shading technique already, so can do it. Remember that two shades next to each other that form a line between them indicated a corner, a shading between them indicates a rounding.

Other than that you have executed the lost and found lines well and that is the secret to successfully drawing the berries.

Looking forward to seeing the next drawings  O0

edit - oops forgot to add the picture
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: dennis on June 21, 2011, 10:54:25 PM
I agree with Nolan. Drawings are well executed with a touch of feeling. Excited in looking forward to your other assignments.
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on June 22, 2011, 11:08:08 AM
Thanks Nolan and Dennis for your comments, much appreciated. I understand what you are saying about the shading. I tried to do some portrait drawing which obviously using shading but soon realised that I needed to go back to basics!!
Not really looking forward to the mug cross hatching ugh!! cant seem to get my hatching right but hey will persevere.
Bye
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on June 22, 2011, 12:08:13 PM
just stick to the plane lines and you will be fine O0
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on June 25, 2011, 09:24:13 PM
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on June 25, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
You are really flying now  :yippee:
There is certainly nothing wrong with your cross hatching :clap:
The only place where I can see you can improve the teddy is the area shown below.
If you recall from lesson 13 a shadow fades out the further away it is from the object.
What you can do is use a piece of Blutac (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-Tack) or your kneadable eraser to soften the edge of the shadow then this drawing will be prefect  :heeha:

Your fish is just as good as mine  :yippee: I wouldn't change a thing there, superb job  :twothumbs:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on June 26, 2011, 12:07:42 PM
 :D Thanks Nolan, should really say that the teddy was my third attempt :-\ It really just felt a bit alien when doing it, like I should be shading or something.
Will try to post my own next time thanks for the advice.
Angela
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on June 26, 2011, 07:51:31 PM
Agree that crosshatching and scumbling takes a bit of getting used to. I am also tend to want to start shading, but once you get into a flow, you are able to complete a cross hatching / scumbling drawing much faster than a shaded drawing. So when you need to capture a scene quickly, like when travelling on holiday, this is the way to do it. O0
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: dennis on June 27, 2011, 07:16:07 AM
Angela, you are going like a Boeing!  Well done.
Don't worry about how many attempts you have made. It is the practice along the way where the improvements happen. This tells me that you at least have patience and perseverance.
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on July 03, 2011, 01:52:21 PM
 :tickedoff: Well the silver surfer still cannot post her drawings, I feel really stupid just dont have a clue how to do it after downloading them :-\ tried to follow your instructions but to no avail :'( So please :help:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on July 03, 2011, 08:43:51 PM
No problem Angela, here you go :


Great job on the squirrel, did you enjoy doing this one?

Only place I can see where you can still improve slightly is to darken the shadow on the ground a bit more (in the area between his feet), this will help to settle the squirrel on the ground.

Then maybe just few more flick on the left hand side of the tail, but not strictly necessary.

 :flowers: you're doing great, keep it up :clap:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: dennis on July 03, 2011, 09:40:21 PM
HI Angela. Well done. The only place I see where an improvement can be made is in the tail. Add quite a few more flicks in it. It has quite a bushy tail, where a the moment it shows a bit thin. Other than that you are on the ball!
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on July 05, 2011, 10:25:29 AM
 :)Thankyou so much Nolan for doing the post, will probably conquer it by the time the course finishes :confused: thank you also for your comments, much appreciated as usual.  O0 I do find, however that my scanner seems to leave out the lighter shaded areas, which made the squirrels tail look very thin (what do they say, a poor workman that blames his tools :whistle:)
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: dennis on July 05, 2011, 10:40:04 AM
You may want to play around with the settings for a while to get the best results as far as the tonal range is concerned. Just keep a record of each set of settings so that you don't get lost and can't find your way back to the original settings if you have to.

I normally mark down all the settings on each test print - this way you are able to judge the best one and then adjust the actual final settings to suit

Maybe your photo editing software can help you as well. Le us know how you fare.
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on July 05, 2011, 11:30:24 AM
I mentioned in the beginning already that I could see your scanner was scanning the drawings too bright. It is an art on it's own to scan and photograph drawings and paintings  :crazy2:  ;D
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on July 06, 2011, 01:41:30 PM
  :-\Nolan Have uploaded my drawing of the horse :2funny: but have a total black out when it comes to posting to the forum :tickedoff: Think I should go on a PC course!! Thank you Dennis for your comments, I tried to do as you said but my Horse still looks a bit anemic in places, I also struggled with the bridle so it looks a bit thin.
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on July 06, 2011, 08:07:25 PM

No problem Angela, there you go O0

Your horse looks as good as mine, awesome drawing, well done  :congrats:
If your bridle is slightly thinner than the original, don't worry about it. Nobody will see the reference picture once your drawing is complete, so if you don't tell anybody, nobody will ever know - I certainly didn't notice  O0
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: dennis on July 07, 2011, 02:48:33 AM
I can still see what you have done and you are going like a Boeing, as they say in the classics  :clap: :clap:
Very well done indeed. I like what I see. Looking forward to some more.
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: John W on July 16, 2011, 06:47:52 PM
As a newcomer just getting stuck into the pencil course, I'm very pleased to see your drawings and I'm certainly impressed! I can't offer critical comments so I'll leave that to Nolan and Dennis, and I'll learn I hope from what they say. But it's good to see how someone else deals with the course assignments that I know are coming up. Do please keep putting your work on the site. I'd be very interested to see more.   

John W
 
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on July 16, 2011, 08:44:23 PM
and we're also looking forward to seeing some of your drawings John  :clap:  :gl2:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on July 20, 2011, 10:55:57 AM
 :D Hi Nolan, posted my still life at last to the gallery :clap:, it took me so long that the chocolate in the biscuits started to melt. I know the background is too dark in places, but hey I will keep trying. Will you do the honours for me. Thanks Angela
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on July 20, 2011, 09:00:55 PM
sure thing, here you go Angela

Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on July 20, 2011, 09:09:25 PM
Great job Angela. You have drawn a stunning still life, well done :clap:

I actually don't think your darks in the background are too dark. You need then dark to create the lovely sunlit effect you have achieved here. If they were lighter the drawing would have looked flat.

I do have one or two suggestions:

1) Extend the background past the cookie jar to the left if you have paper left on that side, it will just give you a better flow to the left.
2) You can also darken the table to the front a bit more, that will give you some contrast to make you cookies stand out more.
3) I am presuming your tea cup was white? It may be the scan that has reduced the amount of shading I see, but you can still add a bit more shading to the cup. Very light, no more than say an H pencil on the right hand side. Even if you are drawing a white object, it will still shade. It's just the contrasts that will be reduced.

I have done a sample below for you so you can see the changes :

Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: dennis on July 21, 2011, 04:57:23 AM
Nolan, I see Gibbo is on the way to becoming a fantastic pencil artist :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on July 21, 2011, 11:38:55 AM
 :) Thank you Nolan and Dennis for your comments, your addition to my still life certainly did the trick :smart: By the way it is not a cookie jar, but a tin of coffee beans :blush: thats what took me so long, trying to make it look like like metal :coffee:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on July 21, 2011, 10:29:20 PM
 :blush:  :flowers: your tin did come out great so the time spent was well worth it :clap:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on July 31, 2011, 12:15:13 PM
Hi nolan and dennis :), long time since I posted anything, didnt have a lovely wheelbarrow to draw, dont have any flowers in my garden :'( so chose the next best thing, my unused greenhouse. Could you do the honours for me :angel:a
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on July 31, 2011, 07:42:14 PM
here you go Angela


Wow, Angela, now you can really say you are a full blown artist.  :heeha: Your greenhouse is magnificent  :clap:
Love the barbie - it's just begging to be lit  ;D

I wish there was a way we could tinker with your scanner settings so we can see your drawings in their full glory  :-\
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on July 31, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
Thank you so much :smitten: I really enjoyed the challenge of drawing outdoors, one day maybe Iwill get a new scanner!! Onto the tree and later the flowers : :)
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on July 31, 2011, 08:30:27 PM
Looking forward to seeing the last few drawings from the course Angela.

I don't think it's a case of needing a new scanner, just adjusting the settings. When you press scan does a window pop up with a preview of the scan? Usually there are settings you can adjust in that window, or a button you can click to play with the settings. It's just the brightness that needs to be set down. On my scanner I can also choose what type of media I am scanning, eg, newspaper, glossy magazine etc. changing that will also make a big difference.
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on August 06, 2011, 11:43:23 AM
 :yippee: Wow fame at last, got a shock when you mentioned my greenhouse in your newsletter which are great by the way :clap:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on August 06, 2011, 09:04:37 PM
You deserve the credit Angela, your drawing is superb :clap:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: dennis on August 10, 2011, 04:01:23 AM
I love this greenhouse drawing - it has such depth and character to it. It seems that your eye-hand coordination has been honed through lots of experience.
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on August 18, 2011, 02:12:36 PM
 :DAre you ready for a laugh :2funny: finally posted my fuscia drawing to the gallery. Recently bought a new computer (apple imac) always operated with windows in the past, need I say any more, scanned perfectly but no way could I get the file to the gallery :confused: so I ended up taking a photo of the drawing and now see that it is the mirror image :o Ah well better luck next time
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on August 18, 2011, 09:41:08 PM

 :heeha: and the drawing is magnificent Angela. You just keep getting better and better.  :yippee:

Perfect range of tones, lovely texture, correct proportions. Just as good as mine.  :flowers:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: dennis on August 19, 2011, 05:40:29 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: gibbo on August 19, 2011, 01:18:13 PM
Thank you so much for your constructive comments throughout the course, have really enjoyed the challenge of pencil drawing, it has given me more confidence to tackle drawings that previously I would have shyed away from :hug:
Title: Re: Gibbo's Drawings
Post by: nolan on August 19, 2011, 09:29:33 PM
and you have done a superb job Angela. Just remember that your access to the Lets Draw forum is permanent, so you can post all your drawings here, even after the course. We love to see how everybody progresses.  :)