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Title: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: ImBatman on July 02, 2013, 05:53:33 PM
Dennis, with the hake brush lesson coming up, I don't have a Hake Brush. Can a regular Gesso brush be used as a substitute?

I looked on ebay and they virtually look identical without the wire binding. And for one lesson I'd prefer not to buy a brush that at (the cheapest) $15 is more than 1 and a half times the price of your lesson. :tongue:

Batman.
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: Happychappy on July 02, 2013, 07:55:26 PM
Hi Batman, I have just read your post and under the TV lessons (big blue button) where he posted the Hake brush lesson, he stated that if you never had a hake brush, you may be able to get away with a big synthetic brush, if that is any help to you for you then won't have to purchase a special brush just for this lesson.  Go there and read it for clarification.    Patricia
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: ImBatman on July 02, 2013, 08:35:31 PM
Ha, thanks Patricia. I didn't read that, I just booked.  ::)

They do look a bit like the bristle Gesso brushes I have though...

http://montmarte.net/products/Brushes_Knives_Shapers/Brush_Sets?product_id=385 (http://montmarte.net/products/Brushes_Knives_Shapers/Brush_Sets?product_id=385) and http://montmarte.net/products?product_id=416 (http://montmarte.net/products?product_id=416) are the kind of brushes I am talking about.

Batman.
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: Val on July 02, 2013, 08:56:26 PM
Here's a photo of my hake brush. Put it along side yours, I would say it looks passable.

Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: CarolHorvath on July 02, 2013, 10:45:45 PM
I'm wondering if the hack is like the bunny brush!! :nosey:
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: BeaSue on July 02, 2013, 10:47:43 PM
I have a three-inch hake brush, which might be a bit too  large for this. Batman, a hake brush is very soft.
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: ImBatman on July 02, 2013, 11:01:26 PM
Ahh - just looks like hog hair. Might need to get hold of one.


Batman.
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: musika on July 02, 2013, 11:18:43 PM
Hake brushes are usually made from goat hair, I believe.
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: ImBatman on July 03, 2013, 02:20:09 AM
So now the question is 25mm, 38mm or 50mm?


Batman.
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: Denise808 on July 03, 2013, 04:36:57 AM
good question as I'm going out to get one soon .....
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: dennis on July 03, 2013, 05:58:10 AM

For this lesson on the hake brush please don't go to any extra expense at this stage. Use any large flat brush about 1 1/2" (40mm) to 2" wide (50mm) Pastry type brush if you don't have a hake  brush.
Title: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: dennis on August 02, 2013, 08:26:46 PM
In order for me to easily find and answer queries about this Lesson I will appreciate it if everyone will keep these to this specific Lesson Posting only. This will also be of benefit to you as well in the future.  Thanks

Download Template:

http://courses.paintbasket.com/handouts/watercolours-lesson68-hake-brush-template-instruction.pdf (http://courses.paintbasket.com/handouts/watercolours-lesson68-hake-brush-template-instruction.pdf)

(#2 rigger brush, 1/2" synthetic flat, 1 1/2" Hake brush)
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 02, 2013, 10:04:45 PM
 :heeha: This is so exciting!!!! I have #2 rigger, 1/2" flat, and 2" hake. Oh boy, oh boy, oh,boy  :yippee:

Just a quick query Dennis, what size paper will we need for this one?

Glad you're able to get about ... I've still got the block and tackle at the ready!  ;)
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: dennis on August 02, 2013, 10:28:12 PM
I have planned his one for the usual size. If it finishes a bit early then have another sheet ready for one without a sketch.

It's still very sore but I'm able to do the "shuffle, shuffle" :2funny: :2funny: I'm also missing my classes :whistle:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 02, 2013, 10:33:13 PM
Righty-o then. I'll have my big board ready for the second one!  :heeha:   

 :doh: Must get more tape!   :run:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Happychappy on August 03, 2013, 12:05:04 PM
So pleased to hear that you are able to do the "shuffle" Dennis and we have missed you too.  I may not be able to  attend class and may even get a bit behind as this coming week promises to be busy for me.  I will be going to assist an elderly family member who has gone blind. However, I will catch up with the replay.  Enjoy the lesson everyone.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: jrhall036 on August 03, 2013, 09:39:13 PM
 :yippee: :yippee: I'm so glad that Dennis is back!!!!  :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: ImBatman on August 04, 2013, 03:55:57 AM
 :thankyou: Dennis,

I guess the Gesso brushes look and feel pretty much like a kitchen pastry brush, so I guess that will have to do.

Batman.
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: Harald on August 04, 2013, 10:23:12 PM
My first try om this one.
Harald
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: jrhall036 on August 04, 2013, 10:44:11 PM
Wow, Harald!  You never cease to amaze me!  Really well done!!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: Lillian on August 04, 2013, 10:47:39 PM
Harald!   :congrats:   Well done!  Just a couple of things -- your man in the middle with the blue shirt has no head.
Also, the large, dark rock on the right could be lightened a bit and not quite so solid.  That's the way I see it anyway.
Other than that, you've done an awesome job.   :clap: :clap:
 
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: Denise808 on August 04, 2013, 11:02:41 PM
 :2funny: Lillian, does anyone really need a head??
 
Nice job Harald, love the bright, crispness to your painting. Here's my "paint along"/tag along
 
 
Darkened up the near bushes per Dennis' suggestion  :)
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: Denise808 on August 04, 2013, 11:04:51 PM
Uh oh, my guy looks like he doesn't have a head either. He does actually have a yellow hat though! ;D
Harald, maybe your hat's just not showing up in the pic? ;)
Title: Re: Hake Brush lesson
Post by: Beth Albright on August 04, 2013, 11:07:35 PM
My first live PB lesson, except I didn't come prepared.  But, I will make up for that.  Welcome back Dennis!  Wishing you speedy healing, hoping the "hitch in your get-along" gets all better.  By the way, good one Harald! :painting:
Beth Albright
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 04, 2013, 11:19:06 PM
Harald  :heeha: and Denise  :heeha: Excellent paintalongs!  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I'm so sad  :( I couldn't join in. Oh well....there's always the next one!  :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: doina on August 04, 2013, 11:21:55 PM
Great paintings Denise and Harald  :clap: :clap: :clap: I lost it in the begining. I'll wait for replay instead of doing by visual memory. See you then, Doina
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: BeaSue on August 04, 2013, 11:34:32 PM
Way to go, Denise and Harald! So interesting to see the variety in your paintings, from one lesson.

I look forward to the replay. Can't do live classes very well since my PC is at the opposite end of the house from my painting area.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: dennis on August 04, 2013, 11:38:48 PM
Harald, an excellent paint-a-long indeed :clap: :clap: :clap: Just soften the large rock on the right to match the colours of the rocks on the left of the painting O0

Denise, also a good paint-a-long :clap: :clap: :clap: I really love your sky :clap: Darken up the main trees on the near cliff to add the proper contrast O0
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Lillian on August 04, 2013, 11:48:28 PM
Nice paint along, Denise!!!  Well done!  I agree with Dennis, your sky is super nice.   :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
Quote
Lillian, does anyone really need a head??
  Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I sure need one!   ;D
I received an email from a friend recently.  Maybe you've heard this one before, but here goes --
I finally discovered what's wrong with my brain:
On the left side there's nothing right and on the right side there's nothing left.   :D
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Lillian on August 04, 2013, 11:57:49 PM
A hake brush is on my wish list, Harald.   O0
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Happychappy on August 05, 2013, 12:43:28 AM
 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:  Good one, Lillian!!


 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:  Superb job Harald and Denise.  I have to wait for the replay and then may not have too much time for the next week.  I missed not joining in today but it was lovely to see the paintings of those who did.  Good job.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Denise808 on August 05, 2013, 12:49:12 AM
Thank you Dennis, will darken it up :)
 
Lillian, that's a super funny quote, my cat caught me laughing out loud all alone :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: jrhall036 on August 05, 2013, 01:20:24 AM
Wonderful job, Denise!   :clap: :clap: :clap: You used that hake brush like a pro!!  :smitten:

Lillian, I have got to remember that quote!  :2funny: :2funny: It suits me perfectly!!  ;D
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: dennis on August 05, 2013, 02:06:48 AM
Denise, see how the darkened bush has opened up the gap between itself and the distant cliff  - and added punch to the painting O0
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 05, 2013, 02:11:04 AM
I finally discovered what's wrong with my brain:
On the left side there's nothing right and on the right side there's nothing left.   :D

There are some days......  :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: jennylynn on August 05, 2013, 07:46:46 AM
herald & denise great paintalong  O0    love both your paintings awesome  :yippee:
 
I missed last nite's class it's my birthday on Tuesday the big 60!!!   and yesterday all my family turned up and took me out for a surprise meal  O0   had a brilliant day. cause my birthday is on Tuesday they are all working and took me out yesterday but have to wait till Tuesday for my prezzies  :yippee:   so will have to wait for the replay before I can do my painting. again great job herald & denise  O0
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 05, 2013, 11:10:05 AM
Many happy returns come tomorrow! I'll send your (  :bday: ) then!  :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: njnjgirl on August 05, 2013, 01:13:10 PM
 :bday:  Jenny!   
 
Welcome back Dennis!  Everyday a bit stronger!
 
Denise and Harald your paintings are great! Good job.. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: looks like a fun lesson. 
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: NHC50 on August 05, 2013, 02:58:03 PM
Herald and Denise you guys did a great job. Denise love your clouds.  O0 :clap: :clap: I was not able to get on the website yesterday. So I missed talking to you all. Hopefully will see you at the next one. Glad to have Dennis back.
You can't keep a good man down.  ;D
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: CarolHorvath on August 05, 2013, 11:10:21 PM
Here's my work on the Hake Brush Beach. I had to leave before Dennis finished so I finished this today before the replay. (My colors aren't as bad as this scan makes them out to be.) Yep, I'll redo with the replay. thank you Dennis

Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Harald on August 05, 2013, 11:43:24 PM
Denise, you`ve got a nice picture with a gorgeous sky.
Thank you all for the nice comments, I also appreciate the suggestions. I will follow it up and correct as best I can.
It was fun to use the hakabrush again so I painted a new Picture. Hope it is an improvement.
The first is painted with W&N Artist watercolour on the second I used Cotman. 
 
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 05, 2013, 11:58:45 PM
Carol, I love this.  :heeha: The tide pool is a bit washed out, but as you said it's probably the scan. Regardless, I think the overall effect is great.  O0 :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: BeaSue on August 06, 2013, 12:45:55 AM
Harald, that's a fine re-do. And goes to show that student-grade paint can produce vibrant results. Good for you for your perseverance!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Denise808 on August 06, 2013, 02:31:01 AM
Dennis, thank you for suggesting darkening the bushes. Yes, I can really see how it changes the depth, what a difference!  :thankyou:  remembering that will really be helpful when I do my future paintings .....

 
Harald, I love your second painting also, thank you for sharing the comparison with the paints. The rock re-do looks great and I'm glad your man now has a head in the second painting ;)

 
Carol, very nice painting! :clap: :clap: :clap: I really like the dreamy look it has...
 
Thank you everyone! for your nice comments  :smitten:  looking forward to seeing your  :painting:  also  :)
 
 
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Lillian on August 06, 2013, 03:14:48 AM
I can't add anything to what's already been said.  I'll just say, "Ditto! Well done, Carol and Harald."   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: CarolHorvath on August 06, 2013, 03:24:27 AM
Thank you everyone for your feedback. I appreciate your looking at my work. Lovely work :clap: Harald and Denise. Did I miss someone?  :sweat: I will check.

 :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: dennis on August 06, 2013, 03:25:22 AM
Harald I also love your 2nd painting :clap: :clap: :clap: Your rocks are much more realistic. You are doing well lately O0

Carol, This one has a character completely on it's own. An excellent example of just how to make a painting completely different than the reference - no copyright issues this way and still end up with a good painting :clap: :clap: :clap: Just blue up the tidal pool and your painting will be OK O0 Looking forward to see the actual one you are going to paint :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: jrhall036 on August 06, 2013, 12:30:41 PM
Harald,  :thankyou: so much for the paint comparison. I am amazed in the variation of the different tints of the same colors. Both paints produce brilliant colors, but they produce different hues.  Excellent 2nd painting, by the way!!  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Carol, I love your hake brush painting!  :clap: :clap: :clap: Your rocks are superb!!  :smitten:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Happychappy on August 06, 2013, 06:05:04 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Very nice re-do Harald.  I am shocked to see that Cotman colours are more vibrant than the proper W&N paints.  Just goes to show that sometimes the cheapies are just as good or even better colour-wise.


Carol, I really like your rendition for it has a "calm" feeling about it.  Good job.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 06, 2013, 08:27:26 PM
Having used both of the above paints, it just comes down to how much water. Where the difference comes in is the longevity and resistance to fading.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Harald on August 08, 2013, 04:26:16 PM
Carol, a nice picture where you`ve gone your own way and made it your own. Impressive.
Thank you everyone for the nice comments. It sounds like music. 
I find it interesting to compare the differetn paint qualities and this exempel clearly shows that there are other things than the qualities of the paint that determines the end result.
I like the Artist quality best but belive that cotman also is fully applicable.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Rkymtnmary on August 09, 2013, 07:57:25 PM
Soooo, the trouble began when I decided to make the template poster size.  And it went downhill from there.  It just got to the point I was laughing out loud to myself no less wondering what Dennis would think if he had a view of my new technique.  Sorry, Dennis...I tried...but something tells me the hake brush is not for me!  But I had such fun so that's that and now on to the next experiment! 

Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: dennis on August 09, 2013, 08:50:47 PM
Mary, just because you did not give up here's a big  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Large parts of the painting has been well done, specially the figures.

My main concern is that you have the template tilted too much downwards to the left. That can be seen relative to the top line of the painting. The horizon line should be completely horizontal as now it looks like the water is sloping.

General note to all:
Remember, mistakes are all part of the learning curve and without them we will not grow properly. They are but stepping stones to a higher level (pun) O0
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: jrhall036 on August 09, 2013, 11:39:15 PM
I love your bold colors, Mary!!   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 10, 2013, 12:27:51 AM
Come on Mary...that's not half bad  O0 I just about go  :goofy: just thinking about painting something that big. My biggest board is 1/2 imperial .... I have it stretched and ready to go. No idea what I'm going to put on it yet...  :eek:

Wait 'til I get back and have a crack at mine...then we can both sit and :2funny: 'til we  :'( !

Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Rkymtnmary on August 10, 2013, 03:32:01 AM
Mary, just because you did not give up here's a big  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:


Dennis - thank you - and believe me, I wanted to!  What I SHOULD have done was looked more at the sketch once it was transferred and THEN say, oh, you better rethink this! 


Large parts of the painting has been well done, specially the figures.


Thank you...figures always scare me...I have a very hesitant hand when I approach them for some reason.


My main concern is that you have the template tilted too much downwards to the left. That can be seen relative to the top line of the painting. The horizon line should be completely horizontal as now it looks like the water is sloping.


It's funny how I never even saw that UNTIL I photographed it - which is not an uncommon phenomenon to me at all.  I think this one demands it to be a do-over and not as a poster either!  Thank you so much for your treasured expertise...I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.  Take good care, Dennis and thank you again.


General note to all:
Remember, mistakes are all part of the learning curve and without them we will not grow properly. They are but stepping stones to a higher level (pun) O0
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Rkymtnmary on August 10, 2013, 03:34:50 AM
I love your bold colors, Mary!!   :clap: :clap: :clap:


Thank you, Jani!  A brand new color wheel!  LOL...nothing subtle here for sure!  Thanks again!
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Rkymtnmary on August 10, 2013, 03:40:31 AM
Come on Mary...that's not half bad  O0 I just about go  :goofy: just thinking about painting something that big. My biggest board is 1/2 imperial .... I have it stretched and ready to go. No idea what I'm going to put on it yet...  :eek:

Wait 'til I get back and have a crack at mine...then we can both sit and :2funny: 'til we  :'( !


Oh, Val, we'd need a carton of tissues if we did.  I have plenty of poster size paper for you as soon as you settle on your subject...maybe a few mountain ghosts??  Thank you, darlin'.  As always.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Riya on August 17, 2013, 11:00:28 AM
Love your paintings, they look just great and i think you have all done an amazing job. I have a Hakebrush but seldom use it, wished i had the possibility to buy this lesson so i will know how to paint with it, well some other day ^_^. Looking at your paintings i am really surprised to see what is possible with this brush.

JennyLinn a belated  :bday: , i had my birtday in the same week ^_^.

Not painted after the Dragonfly, had some other rhings on my mind, but hopefully in a few weeks i will try it again. For now i have to deside if i go for the operation or not, i just have this weekend  for it...operate of=r live with how my wrist is right now, well at last i can still paint ^_^.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Lillian on August 17, 2013, 12:10:53 PM
Mary, I love your painting with those bright vivid colours!   :smitten: :clap: :clap: :clap: You're very brave to go bigger.  I think the composition is so lovely, it deserves a larger size.


I'm hoping I can get on the live class tomorrow.  I have Adobe Reader installed on my laptop now but I can't seem to see proof that the Adobe Flash Player is there as no icon is showing.  It's telling me I have it successfully installed.  I wonder if it's in the Adobe Reader??? :confused:   I'll ask Mr. Google and if all else fails, I'll just ask Ray.  :) :angel:



Riya, so glad to see you here.   :1hug: I'm glad you can still paint.  As for the surgery, it sounds like it's a major decision as to whether you want to have it or not.  Whatever you decide, I  :pray: it's the best for you.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: NHC50 on August 17, 2013, 01:26:31 PM
Carol nice job.
Harald what a difference. The second one is great.  O0 O0
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 19, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
Finally got a start on this!  :yippee: Have only been at it for FOUR HOURS, and managed to fight my way through to 52minutes of the video...  :crazy2: . Have lost the video again, so decided it's a good time to have a break and a tot of rum to soothe my frazzled nerves.  :D ;D

I really think I would have been smart if I had waited until next week and seen the mixing greens class!  :2funny:

Cheers, Val  :faint:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 20, 2013, 10:45:37 PM
Only 11+ hours over 2 days!!!!  :heeha: I really am improving!  :yippee:    :2funny:

Gave up fighting with the video and took matters into my own hands...  >:D gotta love that 'artistic license'!

Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: dennis on August 21, 2013, 12:06:26 AM
Val, I certainly concur that you are improving :clap: :clap: :clap: Excellent painting overall with good colour perspective and good greens O0 Also a lovely sky and the pile of rocks.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 21, 2013, 12:36:27 AM
I must say Dennis... this was a lesson and a half!  :sweat: If I had walls, this brush would be great for the paste (wallpaper)  :tongue: I think it will be great fun for use on larger, looser type paintings. Another hurdle to overcome...BIG paintings!  :faint:

 :doh: Oh the battle with those greens! You've no idea...really looking forward to next Sunday.

Thanks much for your perusal, now go put that foot up!  :2funny:

Must add...it is a nice sky (for a change) isn't it? Pulled out my trusty butterknife for the rocks.  :whistle:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Happychappy on August 21, 2013, 12:41:26 AM
 O0 O0 O0 Fantastic painting Val.  Geez, you did yourself proud.  I still have to do this one. Still trying to catch up on all the posts.   Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 21, 2013, 01:05:36 AM
 :thankyou: Patricia, this was great fun but what a workout! Wish all my paintings were this 'easy'  :o :faint: :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: NHC50 on August 21, 2013, 02:01:06 AM
Well Val my dear, look what you accomplished.  O0 O0 O0
Nina  :flowers:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: BeaSue on August 21, 2013, 02:02:27 AM
Val! This looks beautiful!  :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: MaryAnne Long on August 21, 2013, 02:08:40 AM
Val,

I have no idea what a hake brush is, but you certainly have learned to use it well.  Great painting.

Definitely up to your high standards.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Denise808 on August 21, 2013, 07:21:19 AM
Val, you've graduated up to whole different class level!! Wow, look at that painting!! :yippee:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 21, 2013, 12:21:01 PM
Nina, I have all of you who have posted your painting before me to thank. When the video fails, I study each one and see what is where and hopefully how you did it. So thanks for that.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
When all else fails... that's when artistic license takes over!  :heeha: The rocks just wouldn't look right...so painted them over and out came my trusty butterknife.... voila! Rocks!  :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: jrhall036 on August 21, 2013, 12:26:07 PM
My goodness, Val!  You are moving upwards by leaps and bounds!! This is a  FANTASTIC  painting!  I love your trees, the rock cliffs, the sky, and the HOUSES!!  Awesome job!!  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 21, 2013, 12:26:42 PM
 :thankyou: Susan. I think I've set a new record for time talking to myself!  :2funny:

Mea, here is my hake brush.... I've got a long way to go to using it well.  :crazy2:

Denise...I guess you could say it's a whole different level!  :heeha: :D :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 21, 2013, 12:29:41 PM
 :heeha: Jani! The trees....how many colours...how many layers?  :confused: No idea!  :2funny: But yes, I am very well pleased with my trees. The rocks were a move of desperation...I'm like Zorro with a butterknife!  :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Lillian on August 21, 2013, 01:30:25 PM
Val, I'm so amazed at the progress you're making with all your watercolour paintings!   :yippee:


You did great on this one!  I really like all of it including the people.  I like the pose of the fellow in the blue shirt!   O0


You've had fun using both big brush and little.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 21, 2013, 02:03:59 PM
 :thankyou: Lillian. I'm still unnerved by adding people. I am reasonably pleased with these...they do resemble people somewhat, the blue guy is my favourite too. I tried to make the orange one look like walking in the water...I think it looks more like it has 'gumby' legs!  :2funny: practice, practice, practice!  :D
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Fencepost on August 21, 2013, 02:46:57 PM
Hey, you did it, Val!! And did it well!  :clap: :clap: :clap: Love the painting. I'm still in the gin phase.  :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: MaryAnne Long on August 21, 2013, 03:00:35 PM
Hmmmm, interesting brush, Val.

I really like it when you folks post your tools.  It helps me visualize what you are talking about.  Thanks.

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: ImBatman on August 21, 2013, 03:17:11 PM
Nice work Val  :clap:

It would want to be - 11 hours???  :heeha:

Batman.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 21, 2013, 08:23:31 PM
Judie, it would appear the rum did help!  ;D

Your welcome Mea.  :urwelcome:

Yep....11 hours. Bman.  :sweat: Sure beats when it used to take me a week and more.  O0    ;D
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: ImBatman on August 22, 2013, 05:17:34 PM
Hi everyone

This one wasn't so much a "Hake Brush" demo for me as it was a "Gesso Brush Demo" because not having a Hake Brush, I had to use a hogs hair bristle Gesso brush instead. Dennis seemed to have a lot easier time with his nice soft Hake Brush.

Gesso Brush Demo!
Gesso Brush Demo!


Let me know how you think it turned out.

Batman
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Denise808 on August 22, 2013, 05:44:47 PM
I think it turned out great Batman! The texture looks different which gives it a nice interesting touch - almost like you used super rough watercolor paper. Love your color/tonal contrasts, gives your painting a richness to it 8)
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: dennis on August 22, 2013, 09:32:01 PM
Batman, actually a very good painting with a Gesso brush :clap: :clap: :clap: Well done O0 I just feel that the sand in the middle is a bit too dark. Nice clouds.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: jrhall036 on August 22, 2013, 09:34:49 PM
Really nice, Batman!  :clap: :clap: :clap: I like the added texture from the gesso brush. Really unique!!
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: ImBatman on August 23, 2013, 01:40:17 AM
 :thankyou: Denise :thankyou: Dennis :thankyou: Jrhall
I did get a little carried away with the rocks...
Batman.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Tousabella on August 23, 2013, 05:02:33 AM
Val....great job. It's lovely and your people are perfect.... :clap:      :clap:       :clap:


Batman....yours is very impressive too, especially with your choice of brushes. Good job!
(ps. I found four goat hair hake on ebay for 8.00 US)  They are 1, 2, 3, and 4 inches.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: ImBatman on August 23, 2013, 11:14:59 AM
 :thankyou: Tousabella.

Hmm, I had a look previously, and the best I could find a set for was around $20.

Batman.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 23, 2013, 11:53:56 AM
Good job Bman. Cool textures.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: ImBatman on August 23, 2013, 04:57:05 PM
 :thankyou: Val.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: BeaSue on August 23, 2013, 06:51:25 PM
Val, it's wonderful! The paper you're using seems to have a lot of tooth. (But what do I know...being long in the tooth, myself.   :o )
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: njnjgirl on December 02, 2013, 09:26:37 PM
Some fine paintings here.   I don't have a hake brush,  so I used a  large flat brush that I have and then I used a pastry brush.   Here is my attempt:

Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: BeaSue on December 02, 2013, 10:13:49 PM
Mary Lou, I like this painting very much. Your people, pools, and shadows are terrific!

Suggestions:

1.  Perhaps soften the sky/clouds borders a little?

2.  The large rock and trees on the right seem as if they would benefit from a little more definition
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: njnjgirl on December 03, 2013, 12:28:19 AM
Thanks Sure, here is the revision.   I kind of messed it up and really had quite a time trying to fix it.   I think I made it worse :(


Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: BeaSue on December 03, 2013, 12:34:10 AM
Oh, no. I think these improvements help a lot, Mary Lou, especially the sky. It really is a pretty painting.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Happychappy on December 03, 2013, 12:40:34 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: Mary Lou, I saw your painting in the Gallery and thought, "Wow, this is a beauty" and so it is. I love the way you have done it.  I still have to do this one. Great job.  Patricia
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: njnjgirl on December 03, 2013, 01:21:12 AM
Thanks Sue and Patricia,  whew!  I feel better now...thought looked rather messy on the right side.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on December 03, 2013, 01:24:21 PM
Your clouds are looking better MaryLou, and your rocks are great.  O0 I thought they were fine before, now you have built up the land level and created a dropoff! A very well done dropoff I might add! It may not be the same as the photo, but look at it this way.....you made it your own.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

I don't have flat rocks in my painting either.... I turned it into a rockpile! Kind of like that bottle/triangle thing I did... if it doesn't work....hide it!  :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: njnjgirl on December 03, 2013, 02:59:24 PM
Thank you Val.  A case of having something in mind and it not turning out and then someone else perceives differently..  Now I see it as a drop off as you said....saves the day!   :2funny:

I used a flat brush and making the sky, I was getting rather sharp lines.  I should have softened them when I noticed that.  The learning curve....
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on August 06, 2014, 02:00:25 AM

It was interesting to learn how to use a hake brush - a bit unwieldy but over time I think I'll be able to use it for different brush marks...
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: May lynn on August 06, 2014, 04:19:34 AM
Sharon;

You did a beautiful job on this one.  :painting:

My husband loved the subject soooo  much that he
had me frame it and hang it on his side of the bed.

He says the scene reminds his of his days as a small
boy in England.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: ncwren on August 06, 2014, 05:21:04 AM
Nice work Sharon and MaryLou!

MayLynn that is so sweet!
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: MaryAnne Long on August 06, 2014, 05:26:45 AM
Sharon,

Having no experience with a hake brush, I'm curious where you used it on this painting.  It's lovely, except for the white building which needs some dimension to it..

aloha

mea
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on August 06, 2014, 03:14:10 PM
Great story May Lynn. And I can see a bit of England in this painting, too (I lived there as a child for a year.). Thanks Natalie and Mea. And the edge of this large hake brush was used as the brush to give some interesting effects in the vegetation in the hills - but primarily it was used to give us an exercise in how to control a brush. I'll have to go back and check on Dennis's painting to get the White House perspective correct.
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 06, 2014, 04:03:00 PM
Good job for a first go with the hake Sharon. Your trees and hillside turned out very well.  O0 :clap: :clap: :clap:

I want to play about with the hake a bit more. I've seen some really lovely paintings done with it. Just have to get that old determination fired up! (https://d326oobcc22bax.cloudfront.net/content/50190/1507232.GIF) (http://www.Quebles.com/Hotmail-Tools/Emoticons/)      :2funny:
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on August 06, 2014, 04:12:52 PM
You've more determination than most, Val! And I love your new avatar!
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Val on August 06, 2014, 04:20:12 PM
Ta Sharon, that photo was a few years ago taken in Curacao at new year's day party.  :party:

Just wish the rest of me could keep up with my determination!   :run:     ;D
Title: Re: LESSON #68 - Hake Brush Demo
Post by: Sacgal/Sharon on August 06, 2014, 04:22:19 PM
Than get thee back to Curacao - it suits you!