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thegrindre

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Reply #90 on: November 22, 2011, 09:57:51 AM
I believe I'm catching on to this fat over lean thing, too.

Here's an idea I just thought of that might help everybody with the fat over lean rule.
If we think of out paints, straight from the tube, as having a value of zero, (0), then any medium we add to it, except oil, will give our paint a negative value.
Let's say we mix it 50/50 with Liquin. We could call our tube paint a negative 5, now (-5). (Something we could write down on a piece of paper, BTW.)
If we mixed it 25/50 with oil, it could be refereed to as a positive 2, now (+2). (And could be written down.)
So, adding oil to our tube paints, we'd be giving our tube paint a positive number for the fat over lean rule.
And, if we mix in Liquin, we'd be giving our tube paint a negative number for the fat over lean rule.

I think I got it.  O0

 :thankyou: Dennis.
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Reply #91 on: November 22, 2011, 10:25:53 AM
Dennis, yes I thought as much about the liquin... so my statement was correct  :yippee:

I unfortunately  :( have to add a medium, because the paint from the tube is extremely thick...as in when I squeeze it out...it stays in a firm wormlike shape.  Great for impasto work, but not nice to work with when I want to have a lovely smooth finish...

So if I understand it correctly, I can start out by mixing liquin into my paint... and if I continue in layers...then I can add say a bit of linseed oil to my next layer... by doing this... although I will be mixing different mediums, I will still stay with the Fat over lean rule.

What do do think about the mixture I mentioned below for glazing: Damar Varnish/Citrus Turps/Linseed oil though?
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Reply #92 on: November 22, 2011, 10:27:50 AM
Rick  O0... like your train of though about the Fat over Lean... makes a lot of sense.  :heeha:
Leana

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Reply #93 on: November 22, 2011, 11:21:11 AM
I hope it was clear enough for all to understand.
I now need to go buy a pad or two of those little tiny pasty notes so I can use this info for my paintings and know what level my layers are sitting at. I don't paint but maybe once a week and have a few paintings going on at the same time.
My memory isn't as good as it used to be.

You're  :welcome: Hope it helps others as well.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2011, 11:24:15 AM by thegrindre »
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Reply #94 on: November 22, 2011, 04:13:56 PM
Leana, at first glance I see nothing wrong with that mixture.
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Reply #95 on: November 22, 2011, 08:01:25 PM
 :thankyou: Dennis  :) much appreciated.
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Reply #96 on: December 23, 2011, 01:30:26 AM
The "drying" time for oiling is part of your own judgement depending on what type and make of medium you are using. The idea is to let it become slightly tacky before adding the next layer of paint.

I noticed I think maybe Anya mentioned this too? Or Liz?.....I use the Alkyd Walnut Medium.   Today, I noticed for the very first time that it was beading up as I painted alot of medium over only a couple days' old painting. I did manage to blend it enough that the beading stopped. I hope it won't crack.
What I was going to say was what Dennis says above...so, if I start painting over some paint that was done a day earlier, and it's very close to dry to the touch, but not absolutely...it's ok to paint over that?
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.


 

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