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Reply #15 on: November 03, 2017, 11:17:37 PM
Good on you Mark. You've done quite well with it.  :clap: :clap: :clap:   This is the exercise that will carry you through your drawing, painting, anything you want to pursue artistically. Blending, shading, values, dimension, it has it all. The most important exercise in my book!   O0

The sphere is a tough one first few tries...  :whistle: ....     I like to use it as a warm up.
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Reply #16 on: November 05, 2017, 09:03:43 PM
you are off to a great start Mark :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:

On your shaded ball, work on getting a slower, more gradual change in tonal value between the dark and the light area. Seeing as you are not scared to repeat core drawings a few times (the shaded ball is one of them), here is what I suggest you do:

1) Take a dark pencil like a 6B then shade the ball using only a change in the pressure you apply to the pencil - press super soft in the lightest area, then gradually harder as you progress towards the shadow side.
 This will teach you how to control the amount of pressure you apply to your pencils.

2) Shade the ball using the same pressure on the pencil at all times, instead change the pencil to a softer and softer one as you progress to the shadow side. This will teach you when to use which pencil O0


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Reply #17 on: November 08, 2017, 02:04:05 AM
Thanks for the tips Nolan! One of my questions was actually going to be "How do you know how hard to press"? I was trying to press lightly with my 2h pencil, and still felt it was to dark. I thought as I was moving through my pencils I was adjusting my pressure, but guess not . I like the tip about the light pressure with different pencils. I will work on doing a few more of the balls and take into account your tips.


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Reply #18 on: November 08, 2017, 02:06:56 AM
Thanks Mea and Val for the tips. Work got in the way this week :(, but I'm doing a little each day for practice. I think I have a ways to go before I'm comfortable with my pencils and do what they are capable


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Reply #19 on: November 08, 2017, 03:10:35 PM
Just keep doing a little each day, repetition is the key. Or as we like to say here... 'practice, practice, practice'!  ;D (you'll be hearing that a LOT!)  ;D
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Reply #20 on: November 15, 2017, 11:51:23 PM
Well done keep going  :clap:
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Reply #21 on: December 12, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
Keep going keep practicing, you off to a good start  :clap:
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Reply #22 on: April 13, 2018, 05:06:52 PM
Wow, time flies the older you get! Can't believe I've been away from PB for over six months. I got side tracked on other more important things, so my drawing had to take a back seat temporarily. I'm looking forward to "re-starting" the drawing course where I left off. I just finished watching the video on drawing berries. Looking forward to posting my progress once again when the new PB site is up and running. Thanks for all the previous encouragement. I'm still determined to learn how to draw.


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Reply #23 on: April 13, 2018, 06:16:21 PM
Happy to see you back, MarkK.

Looking forward to watching you progress with your drawing.

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Reply #24 on: May 06, 2018, 11:12:46 PM
Looking forward to seeing your work again Mark. It's one of the things I love about PB.... no punch clocks!  :2funny:
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Reply #25 on: April 17, 2019, 01:23:51 AM
Hi Everyone! Third time is the charm (I hope!) Twice I've started this course over the last two years, and twice I've given up. This time however, I'm determined to soldier through! I really want to learn to draw and advance my art skills.

Both of my past attempts have stopped at the berries. Happy yo say, I'm currently working on those and will post them for feedback once I finish.

However, I have a question about the tonal value chart. How do you know how hard to press when creating the tonal values? I've been pressing lightly up until around the B/2B pencil, then I start pressing harder. However, the tonal values just seem off to me. The problem is my HB value always seems to look darker than my B value, and my 4/6B values never seem to look dark enough. I'm wondering if it is the pencils I'm using, (using Faber-Castell 9000) or my technique just needs more practice? Or if I should be doing it on different paper. Right now, I'm doing it on copy paper because I printed out a bunch of the templates to work from.

 I'm trying to do a tonal chart everyday just to get practice. Looking back at the one I did during my last attempt at the course looks okay, but I still think I'm not doing something right. I can post a new one from this attempt if it helps to get any pointers, but I really am just curious about pencil pressure and how do you know to apply more or less.

Thanks! Hope to be posting my regular progress as I get back into the swing of the course (and completing it this time!)


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Reply #26 on: April 17, 2019, 12:30:27 PM
 :welcome:  back Mark and I would love to see you finish the course which will stand you in such good stead for future work.  With regard to tonal values, I always struggled as I was too timid but then was told to use a darker pencil than what was prescribed and that did the trick for me.  As for the tonal chart values, wait for the more experienced artists to guide you.


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Reply #27 on: April 18, 2019, 01:21:53 AM
 :thankyou: Patricia. I'm determined to complete the drawing course this time. Having never really done much art in the past, I've really got the bug more than ever now. I'm at a place in my life now were I can dedicate time to practice and create art, so I'm going to take advantage of that!

 I thought about using a darker pencil than suggested. I will give that a try.

Adding my latest tonal chart to the post for feedback. I'm struggling with the middle line of values a lot. I still don't know why my HB value looks darker than the rest.  :confused:






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Reply #28 on: April 22, 2019, 11:03:19 PM
Doing a tonal chart is a tricky business as some pencils will get you correct tonal value without applying pressure, while others will require you to apply pressure. I think it is a function of the lead inside each particular pencil. No matter what set you buy, you will always have this issue to a degree.
Here is a trick I often teach the students in order to get a good looking tonal chart:
Instead of colouring from left to right, try this for the top row:
Pressing as light as you can shade in the left hand block. Pressing as hard as the paper will allow use the 6B to shade in the right hand block.
Now using your B gently fill in the centre block. Once done compare it's tonal value to the other two blocks. You want it to be inbetween the two. If it isn't gradually apply more pressure until you have it as close you can judge.
From there it becomes easier to judge and complete the remaining blocks.
In other words when drawing each block ignore the pressure you applied to the pencil  in previous blocks and just concentrate on getting the tonal value of the block correct. O0
Let me know how that works for you.


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Reply #29 on: April 24, 2019, 07:46:23 PM
 :thankyou: Nolan. I just implemented your suggestions and it helped a great deal! I see that it's just going to take practice from here on to get comfortable with seeing and shading values. Now, on to finishing my berries exercise!