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Reply #15 on: October 09, 2015, 03:07:18 PM
I used to work at 'finding' time to do things. Now I make the time! Now I just do dishes twice a day instead of three, saves water and soap! So... I guess you could say I'm helping the environment!  ;)   Same for other chores that don't really have to be done every day, it is hard to break lifelong habits...especially if it's already been a long life with lots more to go!  ;D

I figure I'm also encouraging others to enjoy art as well, like..... dust art! You can draw anything you like in the dust as long as it's not the date!  :2funny:
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Reply #16 on: October 09, 2015, 08:30:15 PM
Dust Art!  I love the idea and I am ready to start... I have a lot of surfaces already prep!  I am not even allergic to the stuff.

Yes, Nolan also said not to date paintings.   :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:


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Reply #17 on: October 11, 2015, 12:51:04 PM
Do you know if the other components in an oil paint could affect the pigments?  I first thought not, but then each cie probably have their little secret mixes.

M.Graham uses walnut oil, while I think W&N uses lindseed oil.

In the mean time, I will just grab a tube of French Ultamarine from W&N or Atelier (if easily available) and solve my problem.  I trust that various bran of oil paints can be mixed together, and that I can still any oil medium or kind of oil.  Is this correct?



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Reply #18 on: October 11, 2015, 03:12:28 PM
Yes, you can mix different oil paints together and use any medium/oil.
Different oils have different drying times and different properties. e.g. linseed oil dries quicker than walnut oil but walnut oil, according to some sources, is nicer to paint with. Safflower oil does not yellow over time like linseed does and is often used for producing whites.

At its most basic oil paint is pigment suspended in oil but manufacturers will add things like fillers (e.g. calcium carbonate or kaolin) to make the consistency of the paint better or to keep costs down.
Some will add driers to make make the paint dry more quickly.

Buying an ultramarine that you like is a good move. You don't have to stick to one manufacturer.


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Reply #19 on: October 11, 2015, 06:27:48 PM
Thank you very much Ray, I really appreciate you clarify all this for me.  The initial learning curve is both stiff and exciting.  Just want to learn it all correctly.

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Reply #20 on: October 19, 2016, 11:39:12 AM
Nice to see all the comments I have bought a very long time ago a lot of pigments in various colours  from the KAT Mill
in Zaandam Pays Bas. and the ultramarin from them is  one of the best and u you can us these pigments to make your own oil aquarelle or gouaches paint depending on the additives such as chalk or different material u control the density of that color As I use mainly primary colours  I  use the ultramarin from the Kat and also the cadmium yellow but hey have a large range of pigments and sell them all over the world
 Maybe an idea for the purist amongst you

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