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on: October 08, 2018, 11:25:36 AM
Hi from Brisbane.
Loving the site, except for the fact it makes the time go so so fast!
I suspect that's because I am having so much fun!
Anyway, hoping someone may have a suggestion for how can I make these berries better? 
I did spend 2 hours on it (found the rough timing tips especially useful) and quite liked it, till I saw a lot of others.    ::)
While practice leads to improvement, I know guided practice can lead to quicker improvement. 














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Reply #1 on: October 08, 2018, 06:55:16 PM
:bigwelcome: to the PB and the course Brendan
You berries are looking good. I am pretty happy with them. :clap: :clap: :clap: What you do want to do is complete the transition on the berries themselves where the highlight and midtone meet. Use your hardest pencil (2H I assume) and very lightly soften the hard edge that you have.If that doesn't work, gently tap the edge with your eraser to soften it O0


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Reply #2 on: October 08, 2018, 07:33:09 PM
Welcome, Brendan.

Your berries look good, but Nolan gave you some good advice to up the contrast. Dark against light is the key to success.

I find it best to read all the Forum entries on the lesson before ever starting it.  Just seeing others' experiences with it FIRST helps a lot.

Keep posting so we can watch your progress.

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Reply #3 on: October 09, 2018, 06:38:52 AM
Excellent.
Thanks so much I will do just that.  And by "that", I mean I'll soften the transition AND I will keep posting.
I'm about 2/3 of the way through the course, done all the drawings, and really love it.     :thankyou: [size=78%] [/size]


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Reply #4 on: October 09, 2018, 04:51:40 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: Brendan, I think that you are doing great.  Just had a look at your other drawings in the gallery and you are doing so well. Keep practicing and posting so that we can follow your progress.


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Reply #5 on: October 10, 2018, 02:14:59 AM
Now all you need to do is post your other drawings in this thread as well so that we can comment on them :whistle: :)


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Reply #6 on: October 10, 2018, 10:34:31 AM
Thanks so much Nolan, Patricia and Mea.   :thankyou:   Your guidance is invaluable.  This is all so intensely interesting.  I have pretensions towards oils but accept the fact that it really should all start with drawing proficiency.  For now, pencils is "where it's at". 8)


So I tried softening the transition on the berries but think I wrecked it a bit, so decided to just do a bit of practice on shiny balls with transitions.  Quite a few when I got going, so I have a few in the gallery that I liked.  Couldn't resist smudging, but maybe I should for now.  I used 8B to 5H and everything in between to practice shading transitions.  Maybe still need practice but maybe keep going and practice with other drawings.       


And I've taken the advice of checking others efforts and comments prior to the new drawings for a bit, but am so happy to keep posting in this thread for your helpful comments.   


Berries and balls.  I tried the bouncing ball with no construction lines to see how I went.










 





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Reply #7 on: October 10, 2018, 11:42:58 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  You are doing very well Brendan and it is lovely to see.  Keep practising for practice makes perfect as Dennis always told us.


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Reply #8 on: October 10, 2018, 03:53:43 PM
Brendan

Yes, it looks like you had fun with your practice. Noticeable improvement - that's progress.  You will know when you are proficient when the transition from one value to the next is almost impossible to detect. (No ring around the collar!)

Your practice pictures of balls with shadows has given me an idea for today.  I have an awful problem with doing cast shadows.  I am going to take the dryer balls from my clothes dryer and position them in different light sources and draw them with the correct shadows.  (No laundry today!)

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Reply #9 on: October 11, 2018, 09:39:41 AM
 :thankyou: Glad to have helped with a touch of inspiration!
Here is an edited version of the ball.  I think I'll play and practice around with transitions in the background and keep going through the course.
I struggled a bit with these rocks but I think this 3rd version looks better in my sketchbook than the pic I took to upload.
Improvement suggestions welcome.  Have a great day all.       











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Reply #10 on: October 11, 2018, 03:09:03 PM
Love your enthusiasm, Brendan

I am still working on mastering rock faces.

Keep at it.

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Reply #11 on: October 11, 2018, 07:42:02 PM
Your shaded balls are getting better - I can see you are starting to master the ability to choose the correct pencil and vary the pressure on the pencil correctly. :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
The rocks initially seem simple - just like the ball does - but it requires careful observation of the tonal values, which is the reason it is in the course ::) You may battle with it now, but as your eye gets more trained, spotting the tonal value differences becomes easier O0


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Reply #12 on: October 15, 2018, 10:01:46 AM

Thanks all,
Whenever I don't feel like drawing, I will draw balls and rocks.  Good practice for me.
In the meantime, hashing.
I think teddy worked but not sure about the coffee cup.     










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Reply #13 on: October 15, 2018, 12:43:08 PM
Getting along nicely in the Drawing course Brendon
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Reply #14 on: October 15, 2018, 08:16:00 PM
You have done a great job for your first time hatching the cup. :heeha: I am happy with both of them as I can see that you are spotting the tonal values correctly :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Just be careful to add in between cross hatching where two values meet. For example with the teddy you have distinct areas of shadow that end in a line. You want to add transition hatching where it end that has an amount of hatching less than the shadow area, but more than the surrounding area in order to get an in between tonal value.

Remember that in drawing - if you have two tonal values that meet in a line, your brain interprets it as a corner O0


 

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