Shiny Reflections

[Val]

  Well, it seems I've put the proverbial foot in it yet again... just can't seem to help myself.   
I decided it would be fun to paint a rather colourful automobile from town... bit of an icon really, everybody knows it. Probably my first mistake at this point in my abilities.     I will follow up with a photo of where I'm at and hopefully you will have a few suggestions,
First I'll outline my situation. This car is kept very shiny... we're talking spit and polish see your fice kind of shiny!      I have tried using various tints and shades, white, and the outcome is repeatedly flat, looking more like someone threw a splash of paint on the car. I have watched the lessons of the copper kettle, the bottles, even went back to the tree reflections, to the point of trying Nolan's shiny ball lesson. That was a right cock-up, trust me  Nolan, you don't want to know!     
 

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Dennis.... have I told you lately how much I love you?                 

[EmmaLee]

This is going to be a bright colorful painting. I can’t wait to see it complete.
I probably shouldn’t try to help as I have no experience with pastels or shiny cars, but have you tried painting a shine in and then go on top of that in small areas with an even brighter shine? It might take more than one bright value to get the look.

[Val]

Hi EmmaLee, I have tried painting in the shine so many times... and removing it, I'm surprised there is paper left! The door was looking such a state that I took everything off and just painted the full door back in. Obviously I am doing something drastically wrong here.
I have no issue painting reflections of say... trees in water, that's easy. But this,    sending me right round the twist!           Going to book into Dennis' rubber room any minute now!   

[nolan]

What I suggest and personally do is add the shine at the end. In other words first paint the car, then add the shine.
You can see me do that in the acrylic berries classas well as in the oil cherries class 

[dennis]

Agree with Nolan 

[Val]

Thanks Nolan, I watched the oil lesson, the acrylic didn´t want to play for me. I´ll try that one again later. I think you´ve given me a few new ideas to have a go at. 
Off we go for another go round!