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EmmaLee

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on: April 09, 2019, 11:04:19 PM
I wasn’t sure where to ask this question, I hope I chose the right folder.
Taking commissions can be very difficult, getting a good reference photo is the hardest at part for me. I have a potential client (distant relative), who has asked me to paint a dog for her. She gave me a reference photo that was pretty bad so I asked for more. Then she hit me with two that were actually worse. The dog has passed away so she’s unable to take a better one. I don’t know what to do at this point. Try and paint it for her knowing it will be very difficult and likely end bad? Tell her I’m sorry but I won’t even try? I’m torn. How would you handle this situation? This is actually the best two of the three she sent me.  :-\

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Reply #1 on: April 09, 2019, 11:54:23 PM
EmmaLee, I can understand the predicament you are in. However, in order not to disappoint your client, I think that the second photograph isn't too bad. The lighting is awful but use your artist's licence and do it your way which I have no doubt will come out superbly. Just my thoughts.


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Reply #2 on: April 09, 2019, 11:59:11 PM
Emma Lee, use the outline of the offered first photograph and search for a photo that has a similar pose that shows the eyes to use in the final.
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=dogs#imgrc=cLsoFtujRsnExM:
Scroll down until you see a large photo near the bottom. Just use the eyes.

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Reply #3 on: April 10, 2019, 12:41:47 AM
EmmaLee,

You do fabulous animal portraits, but if you don't have a good clear photo to work from, it is going to be harder to do a good job.  I say level with the client and say you do not feel that you can do a good enough job because you just do not have enough to work with.  Actually, those two photos don't even look like the same dog.  Say you don't want to disappoint her. 

Anyway, good luck.  Sounds like it would be more trouble than its worth.

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Reply #4 on: April 10, 2019, 02:02:57 PM
Thank you so much for the thoughts you all offered! Three different opinions — sounds like the battle that has been going on I’m my head over this!
Patricia- Thank you for your confidence in me. I see what you are saying about the second photo and using my artist license.

Dennis- Thank you for doing some research for me! I followed your link and found the photo you are referring to. I also noticed that you lightened my reference to bring out more detail. Thank you so much! I like the idea of using the 1st photo and adding eyes from a different reference.  I feel flattered that you believe I can do this well.

Mea- You have said the exact things I have been thinking. It doesn’t seem worth the trouble.

I think what I’m going to do is have a conversation with the client and explain to her my concerns. Let her know she’s running a higher risk of disappointment and show her other reference photos I’ve worked from and the artwork that resulted. Perhaps that will at least let her know what to expect. She has already said she wants it in an 8x10, that would be the smallest pet portrait I have done. It might work to my favor, smaller = less detail...



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Reply #5 on: April 10, 2019, 02:43:57 PM
EmmaLee,

Best wishes for success on this one.  I admire that you have given it due diligence and weighed all options.


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Reply #6 on: April 10, 2019, 08:51:02 PM
What I would do is find a nice photo of a dog that looks similar which has a good pose and good lighting. Run it past the customer to make sure they like the pose.
Then when you paint you use the photos provided by your customer to check the differences between your chosen reference and their pet. You then work in those differences to get a likeness of their dog.


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Reply #7 on: April 11, 2019, 01:02:24 PM
I am sure if you paint the dog as Dennis or Nolan has suggested she will love it.  It much more about capturing the likeness of her dear doggie than precisely copying the photo.  I say do it, giving her the option of not accepting it if she doesn't care for it but I am doubtful that would happen. You are a fantastic artist that is why she asked you.  Do it, do it!! :yippee:
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Reply #8 on: April 12, 2019, 12:48:48 PM
Thank you Nolan and MaryLou! I plan to start this one next week. I will definitely give the client the option not to buy if she doesn’t like it. You all have made me a little excited to get started. :)
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Reply #9 on: April 12, 2019, 06:45:50 PM
Yay  :clap:
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Reply #10 on: April 15, 2019, 11:22:20 PM
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Reply #11 on: April 18, 2019, 08:55:17 PM
Hi EmmaLee.... I´m probably too late with this but thought I´d post it for you anyway. I don´t know if it is helpful, but here it is.



I thought perhaps if I could bring out the features more it might be helpful. Sorry, this is the best I could get it with my limited knowledge and program. Best of luck.     :gl2:
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Reply #12 on: April 25, 2019, 05:15:10 PM
Thank you so much Val! I just posted the work in progress of this one.
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