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csebesta

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on: April 18, 2019, 03:29:37 PM
Here is the second view of Calle De Baloco looking the opposite direction.   It is a 24" x 20" on canvas gallery wrap.

Thanks for any comments or constructive advice.

Charles

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Reply #1 on: April 18, 2019, 03:47:40 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:  Fantastic Charles.   Patricia
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Reply #2 on: April 18, 2019, 04:51:34 PM
Thanks Patricia! 

Also I forgot to post the reference so here it is:



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Reply #3 on: April 18, 2019, 05:37:41 PM
Charles,

Well painted. Would make a great architect's rendering.

Is it my computer screen or does the painting need more shadowing?  I see it in doorways, but maybe more to anchor the characters to the ground?

Regardless, it shows lots of skill. time. and attention to detail.

Fine work.

aloha

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Reply #4 on: April 18, 2019, 07:16:31 PM
Painting well done  :clap: :clap: :clap: I agree with Val. However, the people are too small in relation to the doors and windows.
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Reply #5 on: April 18, 2019, 08:37:58 PM
Hmmm, my comment is missing.  :-\
Never mind, yes the people in the foreground are out of scale with the buildings. It looks to me like the people should be roughly half the height of the doorways.
Otherwise I think the painting is great, love the colourings.  O0       :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Reply #6 on: April 18, 2019, 10:30:27 PM
Thanks Dennis, Val and Mea,

I think the biggest culprit is the guy in the foreground, he was sketched to go more in mid ground but I wanted something in the foreground and he isn’t big enough.

Some of the doorways like the second one on the right are really three doors that could open up to let large horses into the building as well as a smaller door for people and a ‘speakeasy’ door to see who was there.

At any rate at least the guy up front needs to be larger or much further back.  I will get to that when I get back in the country.

Thanks again for your thoughtful comments.

Charles

Overnight it became aware to me that the walker in the front needs to go.  For personal reasons and I think artistic as well, I didn’t want anything in front of Vicki that was larger or attracted more attention than she with Angie.

Not sure what to replace him with, but something small that doesn’t detract from the rest of the scene.  Right now I am thinking nothing, or moving the ‘no parking’ emblem to the foreground like it was in the first picture.  Just move it to the left from the right.  Hopefully that will fix the big void.

Maybe a week in the Caribbean will clear my thoughts.

C
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Reply #7 on: April 22, 2019, 03:59:40 PM
Yes indeed, a week in the Caribbean will give you a completely fresh outlook. I do miss my turquoise waters.....     :'(    I look at it this way, we used to sail between the mountain tops... and now I get to see the whole thing!   ;D     Enjoy yourselves!
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Reply #8 on: April 22, 2019, 10:44:02 PM
What I do to check the size of my figures before adding them to the artwork is to sketch them onto a transparency using an erasable whiteboard marker. That way you can see if they are too big or too small. It is also easy to move them around to find just the right spot to place them O0


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Reply #9 on: April 23, 2019, 01:01:49 AM
Thanks Nolan, first day at sea here, hundreds of miles from my easel, with spotty internet,

I sketched V and Angie out in pencil on paper, V is about 5’ high and the door ways seemed to be 12’ to 14’ in that area based on the reference photo and my memory.

So V and Angie are close if not perfect.

In a hurry, I just blew it on the front walker, not wanting him to be bigger than V, but wanting him to kill some dead space, he wasn’t to size.  If he was, he likely would have commanded too much attention.

So before I left he was gone and the street is drying.

Unless I come up with a better idea, a ‘no parking’ emblem will be in or near his spot.  I had the same problem on the first of two and that seemed to work.

Perspective is incredibly important on paintings and I just really messed up. 

The cruise got off to a rocky start, three hour late for boarding, once on board the service has been very, very, good.  Unlike my walker, hehe.

Charles



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Reply #10 on: April 23, 2019, 09:07:22 PM
enjoy the cruise :boat:


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Reply #11 on: April 23, 2019, 10:16:15 PM
Hope the sunshine holds and no storms.  Otherwise it can be; 'rock and roll'. :)
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Reply #12 on: April 28, 2019, 11:43:30 PM
Thanks Stoney, as it worked out the weather was close to perfect.  For the first couple of days, the ship was doing 20 knots and the wind was 20 knots directly into the ship.

So the breeze on the top decks was quit strong, 35-40.

So it is now back to painting, will be making several revisions, now that I have a fresh eye, and no pressure to leave town, I am seeing other things to fix, or improve on.

Thanks Stoney for stopping by!

Charles
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Reply #13 on: May 02, 2019, 01:55:25 PM
About to be done with these, and I have learned a lot regarding perspective when adding new objects to a painting, and also about shadows in shadows, which Mea correctly commented on, and I am just now responding.

But first the picture.


In regards to perspective, adding objects and maintaining perspective is tricky, for example in the painting, the beginning of the first white doorway is 16" (on the painting) from sidewalk to 2nd floor rafters and it is only 3.5" for the far side of the 3rd white doorway further back to the left.  So the perspective reduction a factor is over 4.  So the walker with the backpack ( 1.5" in painting)  would need to be roughly 6" if going in the Dislicores door, at the front right,  which would place the top of his head 1/2 way between the door handle and the top of to door, which seems right.

Sorry for the math, after all, this is about art, but that is how I managed the size, and while the sizes may not be perfect, the are close enough for me.

As Mea may remember, I have always had issues with shadows in shadows, if the primary light source is already in shadow is there enough light from a secondary source to make its own shadow.  Mea correctly pointed out that including shadows will ground objects, which by itself is desirable.

But being hard headed I studied the reference picture (reattached below) and discovered a shadow near right edge which was made by a stand up cardboard placard (Johnny Walker Scotch ad I believe), and the light source was not the sun directly but a reflection from the wall on the other side of the street.  I found another similar shadow a little further up the sidewalk, so now Angie and Vicki both have shadows.

Thanks again, Mea, and the others that have helped me with this project.  Sorry for the long rant, but it took me a while to figure all of this out.

Thanks to all for you patience with me on this.

Charles




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Reply #14 on: May 02, 2019, 02:27:07 PM
Perspective is something that I, too, struggle with.  I have used Nolan's aid in helping me place items in a painting and it works like a charm.

Your painting has such clean lines and has lovely colors.  I really like it.  :clap: :clap: :clap:
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