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Lillian

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Re: Masking Fluid Trick
Reply #30 on: February 01, 2012, 03:16:59 AM
Dennis to the rescue   :yippee:  I knew Dennis, would draw from his many years of experience and share it with us.   :thankyou:  Dennis.

Mary, don't be discouraged.  This is your very first attempt at watercolor painting.  It will get better with time and really, I think I'll never stop learning how to handle it.  Watercolor tends to have a mind of its own and sometimes does what it wants to in spite of us.   :)
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Re: Masking Fluid Trick
Reply #31 on: February 01, 2012, 03:19:19 AM
So true  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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Reply #32 on: February 01, 2012, 04:14:56 AM
Quote from: dennis on February 01, 2012, 03:08:42 AM
This is not an easy question to answer as several things can go wrong.

Can be the wrong type of paper even if it is 140lb. Different manufacturers have different hardness and softness to the paper. Softness - meaning the fibers are not sufficiently compresses and bonded to each other.

The paper could still have been a bit too wet - being a thick paper it could have soaked up a lot of water and although dry to the touch was still just wet enough for the masking fluid to take the paper with it. Overheating the masking fluid could be another - rather let the masking fluid dry and cool down before taking it off.

Another point is that if masking fluid is applied too thickly it also can take quite a time to dry.


Thank you so much, Dennis.  That's a perfect description..the fluid WAS taking the paper with it...they were coming up off of the paper as one.  Between you and Lillian, you've helped me problem solve and now, rather than be discouraged, I can't wait to try it again incorporating all the knowledge you've offered.  I so appreciate it.

Mary
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Reply #33 on: February 01, 2012, 11:31:26 AM
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Reply #34 on: February 01, 2012, 04:10:29 PM
Good morning, Lillian!

Now see?  With all your fine encouragement, I'm starting the watercolor landscape today!  I decided to go in order of the course presentations rather than jump to the oils (though, at least they don't use masking fluid...lol) and if all goes well, maybe I'll even put a few "cosmos" on the ground!  LOL

Have a great day!
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Reply #35 on: February 01, 2012, 11:03:55 PM
 :wave: I'm so glad you didn't let that little bump in the road discourage you. I went through a rather 'tacky' stage a few months back and Nolan & Dennis pulled me through. Lillian is a great confidence booster...in fact I'm going to get her a brand new set of pom-poms!  :cheering:   :2funny:  Where would we be without her?  :1hug:
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Reply #36 on: February 02, 2012, 12:51:10 AM
Quote from: Val on February 01, 2012, 11:03:55 PM
:wave: I'm so glad you didn't let that little bump in the road discourage you. I went through a rather 'tacky' stage a few months back and Nolan & Dennis pulled me through. Lillian is a great confidence booster...in fact I'm going to get her a brand new set of pom-poms!  :cheering:   :2funny:  Where would we be without her?  :1hug:

Thanks, Val!  No masking fluid today...LOL...just a little sticky masking tape!  Something about the word "masking" I think...Nevertheless, I plowed ahead and attempted Lesson #2 which was really great fun - definitely not Metropolitan Museum of Art material but it was such a great exercise.  And this cottage DEFINITELY was an abandoned one...LOL...I don't think I could pay a family of muskrats to take up housing in it!  But onward to #3 tomorrow!  It's taking over my life!   8)
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Reply #37 on: February 02, 2012, 02:02:47 AM
Val!   :blush:

I'll be checking my mailbox!   :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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Reply #38 on: February 15, 2012, 05:16:46 PM
I have used twigs, toothpicks, masking fluid applicators (which do not allow the fluid to stick to it), and twine tied to an old paintbrush...all seem to work fine.  HOWEVER, when it comes to masking out large areas, drats!!! I have what looks to be a great painting going, and then when removing the large areas of masking, MY PAPER TEARS.  I let everything dry thoroughly for a day before I remove the fluid but large areas seem to continue to tear.  This is exceptionally frustrating.

ANY IDEAS ANYONE???
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Reply #39 on: February 18, 2012, 01:03:59 PM
Artbypen
I'm finding my paper is "lifting"' " peeling" 'slowly coming apart under my brush" and i suspect it has to do with the paper more than anything else.  I would suspect that whats happening to your paper MAY be related to the brand of paper.  I would take a piece of scrap of your H2O paper and turn it over and apply  masking to the "back" side in the same way that gives you problems on the front.. The other thing i would do is ask the folks at the local art for some samples of different brands and try it on those

 :blush: :blush: My wife asked me why I was not using the NEW, better, grade paper that I bought :blush: :blush:
I think i will  :idiot2:open it today! Did i mention I'm Scots :)

Question: What effect do ya get when you apply masking fluid with twine around the toothbrush?

Ok, folks, someones got a lot better answer than me, What is it?? :nosey:
Regards to all
Brian

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Reply #40 on: February 18, 2012, 01:40:59 PM
 ?  :think:   :-\ ::)

Brian, is that a trick question?   :confused:
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Reply #41 on: March 13, 2012, 05:45:21 PM
Brian,

Thanks.  I'm using Kilamanjaro paper by Cheap Joe's and masking does tend to lift off the paper along with the masking fluid.

I think the twine around the toothbrush IS a trick question but what the hey...the answer is don't wrap the twine around the toothbrush!  Paint the fluid on with just the twine.

Hope that helps.

-Linda
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Re: Masking Fluid Trick
Reply #42 on: March 14, 2012, 11:02:46 AM
I think you'll find the better quality papers won't come apart. I like Arches, Daler Rowney....and a few others.... :whistle:
Still checking out different brands...and yes Virginia, there is a difference!  ;D
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