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Gloria

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Reply #30 on: July 02, 2012, 01:44:21 PM
Dont know if this question is allowed but I'll ask it anyway. When doing an expressive portrait painting, you know the one with all different colors of brushstrokes, how do you determine what color to put where. Thanks Nolan.


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Reply #31 on: July 02, 2012, 02:46:45 PM
Just thought I mention, remember our questions must be based on classes that Nolan presented and what problems we still experience in some of those techniques.

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Thank you for your reminder, Maryna.  I thought perhaps since everything I do comes from Nolan's classes, it might be an appropriate place to ask.  Nolan, please forgive me for deviating from the agenda.


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Reply #32 on: July 02, 2012, 06:46:41 PM
I battle with backgrounds for things like portraits and still life, some direction on this topic would be great.  I am also with Mary regarding moving to the next level with your paintings, after you have achieved significant enough skills to successfully execute a painting-it is the feelings, the story, the mystery in the painting, both for myself and the viewer that I want to be able to express. Seems a lot harder right now than the technique stuff.


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Reply #33 on: July 02, 2012, 08:14:38 PM
thanks for the questions so far guys, keep them coming, even if they are not all from previous classes, we can rather have too many questions than too little.

Gloria, please expand your question a little more : "When doing an expressive portrait painting, you know the one with all different colors of brushstrokes, how do you determine what color to put where. Thanks Nolan." Do you have an example I can look at, etc. I am just trying to get on the correct page with this question.


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Reply #34 on: July 02, 2012, 08:37:22 PM
I know the way Nolan explains about determining colours for a particular part as: 'Base Colour/Mid Tone', 'Highlight' and 'Shadow' but, for me personally, I found that it caused ambiguity over that 'shadow' part. So, I changed it to a different set and, I hope this is okay as a question to clarify if it seems okay. I look for these 7 colours/tone elements for a particular colour part of a scene:
 
1.  Midtone/Base of that colour (Tonal number 5) Nolan, can you guide me on these numbers to correct 'em?
2.  Darkest part of that colour   (Tonal number 9 )
3.  Lightest part of that Colour  (Tonal number 2)
4.  In-between Colours (Tonal number range 3-4 between lightest & Mid/Base.  6-8 between Mid/Base & darkest)
5.  Reflection highlight (lightest Light)  (Tonal number 0)
6.  Cast Shadows
7.  Colour Reflections created by nearby objects

Am I missing anything vital? Should I have included the Tonal Range number guide to these colours? A Notan? Perspective colour changes? etc?
« Last Edit: July 03, 2012, 02:57:29 PM by Topdoginuk »
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Gloria

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Reply #35 on: July 03, 2012, 03:25:39 AM
Nolan, if you do a search on google "expressive portrait paintings" its the first item on the page with some examples. I believe it is also referred to as a painterly style or broken color style. Thanks


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Reply #36 on: July 03, 2012, 06:45:36 AM
If it's not too late, I'd like to know a bit more about painting thickly with acrylics - ( oils too) particularly foregrounds for landscapes - grasses, weeds flowers stones logs fences, marran grass and sand etc. I've tried painting with palette knives and scratching with credit cards but apart from rocks my close foregrounds are not very convincing - and I'm never sure how much detail to keep and how to lose some.


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Reply #37 on: July 03, 2012, 11:47:10 AM
I hope I am not to late as well --

A new member asked about acrylic paint lifting off the canvas when glazing.  I have never had this happen to me but I would be interested in knowing why that would happen and what can be done to prevent it.

I will be working in acrylics for my next project.

Interesting questions here, ...looking forward to the class.   :yippee:
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Reply #38 on: July 03, 2012, 03:58:38 PM
Do you always have to use a canvas for a picture, or can you use paper?  If so, what kind of paper produces the best "keeping quality", so that the paint doesn't come off? 
Thank you.
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Reply #39 on: July 03, 2012, 04:49:27 PM
This is not really class based, but I have an issue.

My painting of Mr Rooster I did is cracking up on me.  :'(  I did not use any medium in my paint as I tried to create some texture in the feathers. Now I am wondering, isn't it maybe because I am using different brand types that this is happening. I noted the one brand's oil content is allot more than say my W&N. Should I maybe try and get all my colours the same brand? Or what is happening here?

Ps: Nolan, I really hope I can join the class tonight (hope my internet connection co-operates)
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Reply #40 on: July 04, 2012, 06:24:52 AM
 :'( oh no was last night Tuesday .....can't believe that I missed this important class.   So disappointed with myself.  :fight: :whistle:
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Reply #41 on: July 04, 2012, 06:35:30 AM
Shame Valweb, if if is going to make you feel any better, I at least had the chat :) My connection gave issues again, I saw about 10 - 15 minutes :( The replay is going to be good :)
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Reply #42 on: July 04, 2012, 01:54:27 PM
Maryna you made my day......glad there is going to be a replay.   I can kick myself  :banghead:
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Reply #43 on: July 04, 2012, 08:52:50 PM
Nolan, 

this class, as always, was really helpful.  Thank you for answering my questions.  I apologyze for not answering on
the chat; but the computer I was using would not let me write on the chat. 


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Reply #44 on: July 05, 2012, 06:31:50 PM
Thanks, Vangie, for the great website.  Good to know.
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