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jennylynn

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Reply #30 on: October 08, 2012, 04:15:18 PM
hi helena good job on your painting  :clap: :clap: :clap:  as regards the tonal values i think they are fine, you havn't got to exactly copy the photo O0  but see what the others say I am still a beginner and still learning myself or trying too  :2funny:  but as i said looks good to me  :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Reply #31 on: October 08, 2012, 04:41:08 PM
Dennis; thanks for the reply of encouragement..I had decided overnight that I would post my painting anyway;despite my desperation attempt..Have progress today to figure out my cell phone to send picture to my email; and am in process of looking for the method here to post it here..

Short term memory doesn't help but when I get it done, would appreciate everyone's input and suggestions..that is why I joined..I forget that was what I was looking for; group participation.. :hug:   :thankyou: :thankyou:  everybody.. :blush:.
Sharon


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Reply #32 on: October 08, 2012, 05:06:24 PM
Thank you Jennylynn. I know that I don't have to copy the photo exactly. I just wanted to ask, so that I can learn seeing. I have just had a look on the other paintalongs. I think your painting is stunning. Somehow you have captured the feeling one gets when watching the photo so well in your picture. It seems, that you have put your darks and lights just in the right places and created the atmosphere of the photo. I would say that I have put my darks and lights in the same places, but couldn't produce this atmosphere. I would like to SEE or rather KNOW how you did it. But I can't yet...

Natalie, forget the replay, your painting looks great. I love the water and your ducks look so great with their ripple around them. When I saw them I remembered that Dennis said something about the duck ripples. But I was struggling with another thing at that moment and forgot all about it.

Brian, did you really use all the purpley icy blue or was this an invention of your computer (mine has bathed my painting all in purple- which I never used). It is an amazing icy-sunny scene. Just great.

Harald, your reflections looks so great. I just want to go in the water and have a swim there. WOW!

Val- you must be bathing in money so that you can use your computer screen as a drawing board. Do you take a new one for each painting? I think Dennis' dark colour was called "dark - nearly black". Batman knows the number, or who was it who supplied me with a number of brown. :) Couln't answer in the chat because I have too much male hormones. I can do just one thing at a time. So I decided on rushing on with my speedpainting.

Sharon, I'm looking forward to see your picture. It sounds as if you  are having a rough time with all your electrick-trick.

Dennis, thank you for loading up the photo too. It is a great help. As I skipped the flower classes I have just found out recently that there was a photo available

Guys I think I have learnt a lot by just looking at your paintings.  :thankyou: :hug:
Helena


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Reply #33 on: October 08, 2012, 06:04:49 PM
I finally posted my painting; however it is blurry... :crazy2:       :help:    Hope you can see enough to give me your suggestions.  By the time I got distant mountains done; I rushed the foreground mts. and lost control of my sunlight.

I had pre-applied masking fluid and put some in wrong place; thus putting in too much darks.  Again, I played catchup on my trees...then (while I was practicing a new language;  :tickedoff:  not printable)..I was missing out on the application of colors on the reflections..

I thought my colors on the distant mountains were horrible, however this morning they looked like the only decent part of the picture...I am looking forward to the replay and starting over. Also I will ask my daughter-in-law to take the pictures from now on.. :confused:  .

My goal is to match everyone's pictures I saw...so far..GREAT JOB everybody..
Sharon


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Reply #34 on: October 08, 2012, 06:28:23 PM
I took the liberty of posting it for you, Sharon.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2012, 11:06:37 PM by musika »
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Reply #35 on: October 08, 2012, 06:34:19 PM
Helena, the purple in the shadows is there in real life. All reflections on a sunny day are blue in colour (from the sky) Many reflections , combined with the red-brown tones of the earth colours, produce the purple in various shades.

The camera picks it up but the eye tends to subdue the blue frequencies, otherwise everything will look too blue. It is much like as if you live on a very busy and noisy road - the brain tends to shut out the noise so that you do not "hear" it anymore even though the noise is still physically there.

The water was a light blue-purple at the distance and more darker as one came towards the foreground. I then dropped all the other colours used for the tree, etc.

Unfortunately I have not had time to comment on the paintings ye,t but what I have seen makes my heart go Boom, Boom with delight, especially now that the difficulty factor is increasing slightly  :clap: :clap: :clap:  :yippee:
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Reply #36 on: October 08, 2012, 06:37:07 PM
Sharon, unfortunately the photograph is too blurry for  me to see exactly what is going on.
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Sharon Flan

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Reply #37 on: October 08, 2012, 06:51:45 PM
Dennis that's OK, I was sure it was too blurry.  Thank you for trying..
Sharon


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Reply #38 on: October 08, 2012, 07:00:39 PM
Ray, Thank you for posting it for me; It really isn't worth the effort. My heart goes out to you for doing it..How did you know I was having a hard time figuring out how to bring it from the gallery to the posting?

Guess I will try again on the replay and get someone else to take the photo..I won't quit while I have such great encouragers to follow their examples...

Thank all of you for the support.. :thankyou:  I think I will have to just go for the DVD's and just pop in to say hello to everybody..I don't want to lose contact with the group.
Sharon


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Reply #39 on: October 08, 2012, 07:11:23 PM
Yes Dennis, I know this. I have seen the  purple in the reflection near the shore in your wonderful photo and I have seen it in nature too.

What I meant was, that the computer or the camera changed the colours of my painting and gave it a more purple tinge that I just didn't paint. And my painting from last week got a light blue tinge on the computer whereas the real painting had greener greens and greener reflections. This is so disappointing for me. But I can imagine that I'm not the only one that gets so strange colour outcomes in the computer version.

On the other hand I'm so happy that there is the possibility to send the photo of my painting to New Zealand - which is at the other end of the world- and get advice from people all over the world about how I could change it  :D
Helena


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Reply #40 on: October 08, 2012, 07:13:38 PM
Sharon, please see if you can get a sharp photo of this one for me. You have nice reflections in the water and the mountain looks good. I can't see what is right or what is wrong at the moment in the tree section. Because it does not look the same as the photograph does not mean is is a bad painting.  :flowers:

These lessons are for techniques and NOT for being copy artists.

I'm not worried about where the technique is right and it looks different to the photograph. I look where the the "struggle" areas are so that I can help each one to correct them.
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Reply #41 on: October 08, 2012, 07:19:40 PM
Most digital camera are notorious for changing the purple into a more blue colour - I have the same problem.
I normally correct that in the computer with "white balance" in my editing software.
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Reply #42 on: October 08, 2012, 07:29:48 PM
Hi Sharon, don't give up yet. OK, its blurry, mine is purple. Not our fault its the electrick-trick. I think the mountains in the background really look good. At least when they are blurry they look like in a blurry photo, quite realistic. Perhaps you should darken your beach or what it is called in the front. To me the right side of your reflection looks really good. Perhaps you could bring in some more colour on the left side as well. But I'M not sure if it is needed because the right side tells the viewer already that it is a reflection he/she is looking at. About the sunny parts we have to ask Jennylynn. I wasn't satisfied with my painting either but I have learned a lot by just comparing mine with the others and watching out for things I can try next time to make it better. Though I haven't figured out yet what exactly it is that Jennylynn did to her painting. So hey, we are here to learn. Even if your photo is too blurred you are one step nearer to posting it yourself. Together we'll rock it.  :smitten:
Helena


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Reply #43 on: October 08, 2012, 10:01:29 PM
 :yippee:  Good job Helena and Sharon.  :clap:   :clap:  Sharon, if you can get a better photo it would help...but your colourings look nice.  O0
I didn't get to paint today, 'things' kept getting in the way  :tickedoff: but the trees are in, just have to put the trunks in place and that just leaves the water...gulp  :o


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Reply #44 on: October 08, 2012, 11:01:59 PM
Dennis, I replaced the painting with a photo that my daughter-in-law took so hopefully it will help enough for a comparison   :-\     ..I don't mean to push it but value your input. :smart:     If it is too time consuming please disregard this note ..Thanks. :whistle: :thankyou:   
Sharon