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Reply #105 on: October 28, 2017, 12:26:34 AM
I have the sky done and started blocking in mountains. Not going to post it yet in the lesson until it actually looks recognizable! At the moment it is in that stage where it makes you want to   :envy:   and   :run: !   But I'm   :painting: !!!     :yippee:


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Reply #106 on: October 29, 2017, 07:38:48 PM
 :eek:   Yikes! First BIG lesson learned. When working with good pastels.....you really don't have to put that much on!  :doh:   Got some lifting off and cleaning up to do.  :faint:

Going to have a go on some different paper with different subject matter, I'll come back to the "black hole" in a bit.  :tongue:


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Reply #107 on: October 30, 2017, 12:58:51 AM
Val it is so good to experiment with the different papers and soon you will find the one that you love the most.  I did and I use it exclusively which is Strathmore's 400 Series Toned Tan. I was so sold on it that I even posted a supply to Retta before she died. Sadly, I don't think she had the time to try it out.


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Reply #108 on: October 30, 2017, 07:48:24 PM
That was so kind of you to send some paper to my 'Bella' Retta.  :flowers:

The lesson is on a Fabriano pastel paper. It was the only paper I found in Guat. city earlier this year. So far I've tried this paper, and the Canson Mi Teintes paper. I was hoping to find some of the Mi Teintes Touch, but didn't manage to find any. Next trip!  ;) ;D So far I am not very fond of the papers. I loved working on the sandpaper (even though it wasn't 'art' quality), so itching to have a go with some of the varieties I brought back. I also brought back two pads of coloured velour paper to try, a friend in England does the most gorgeous pet and wild animal/bird  portraits on the velour. So I'll have a bit of guidance there on how to use it.

There are a few small exercises I want to try, with a bit of luck I'll figure out how much pressure to use to control the amount of pastel I lay down. It's a lot like when I first started with w/c..... how much is too much!  :doh:   I can only learn by doing so time to get at it. Hopefully have something to post over the next day or three.  :painting:


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Reply #109 on: November 03, 2017, 03:33:14 PM
Here is my first go with the new pastels on velour paper. What a learning curve! There is a fair bit that needs improvement (don't say no.). I left out a few steps due to issues I have yet to sort out with the new materials, but overall I'm relatively pleased with it. Turned out much better than my 1/2 done mountain! Sorry Dennis, I'll have another go at that one. Have got to learn those misty mountains!  ;)

Cheetah painted on velour paper with new pastels... This is a second photo as I was so excited to put it up that I forgot his whiskers!  :doh: :2funny:




PLEASE NOTE: I need some straight up no holds barred critiques on this piece. I have some possible commissions in the wings so honesty is above nicety on this one please. Fire away!  :attacked:


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Reply #110 on: November 03, 2017, 04:13:35 PM
Val,
 
I have no experience with pastels, so I am not going to be very helpful here.

Colors are good.  Love the eyes with the glassy highlight.  Dots are good in that they are not hard-edged circles.

 It does seem to needs more darks to give it more dimension.  Ex.  There appears to be a depression under his face between his legs.  Should that be darker?

Hope that helps.

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Reply #111 on: November 03, 2017, 04:32:53 PM
hey Val,
Not bad, good start.  O0 Do you have the original photo that you used? One thing is where the whiskers are attached to. If you will look at the picture you should see that it is darker where they are attached at. Also on the left leg area you colors should blend more smoothly. Remember where there is a light there is a dark. For contrast.
Hope this helps. Keep going you will get there.  O0 O0 I have problems with pastels also. I have been working on a lioness.

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Reply #112 on: November 03, 2017, 05:45:12 PM
 :think:   Thanks Mea and Nina,I tried a different brown in those areas, doesn't seem to be showing up in the photo. Barely a shadow!  :confused:

Nina I have a lot to learn about using the velour paper, very difficult (if not impossible) blending colours. There may be a trick to this I haven't found yet. Have you tried velour? I don't think it will be any good for landscape etc., very difficult to get good hard edges, but great for furry critters! More practice! Of course!  :doh:     :2funny:

My favourite at this point are  still the sanded papers. Still quite a few different ones to try out  :yippee: .

I'll give my critique on this painting maybe next week, see if I get any other suggestions first. Thanks again guys.  :)


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Reply #113 on: November 03, 2017, 06:45:14 PM
As the masters would say "a nice photo doesn't mean a nice painting'.

I agree, you need more shadows.  You can imagine the light coming from the top right quadrant of the painting... you would have a bit of shawdow on the left side of the nose, left lateral face, left neck, left chest, etc.

Othewise is is excellent.  What is the red dot on the furcoat?


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Reply #114 on: November 03, 2017, 08:37:35 PM
Excellent work! I like the colors.


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Reply #115 on: November 03, 2017, 08:55:05 PM
Val - these new pastels Lynn introduced you to have already increased your skills as a pastel artist! This is really good! I would suggest darkening your shadows under the chin and on the chest to create more definition as Mea already said. You've done an excellent job on the fur and the eyes. I would love to see the reference photo to get a bit more perspective. But you are well on your way to a very framable painting - and a great advertisement for your skill for those commissions (and maze tov on those potentials, by the way!!)
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Reply #116 on: November 03, 2017, 11:20:32 PM
 :2funny: Annie, if you blow up the photo.... that's my signature. Could never figure out a nifty signature, so I just sign it as I normally sign my name!


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Reply #117 on: November 03, 2017, 11:21:56 PM
Thank you Mark, I've still got a huge learning curve ahead of me with the pastels and papers.... but man is it a trip! Great fun!  :yippee:


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Reply #118 on: November 03, 2017, 11:35:36 PM
Ta much Sharon, Lynn has been such a godsend in helping me along, I'm sure without even knowing it! I follow her posts with the drawing from life, what a banner source they have been to me. I try them all.... most highly unsuccessful, but every subject gives me something to study. I just love her pastel work, gives me something to aspire to. Not quite ready to have a crack at portraits though!  ::) I have enough trouble drawing them!  :2funny:


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Reply #119 on: November 04, 2017, 01:37:33 AM
Val, your Cheetah is gorgeous!  I looked hard and noticed two small things.  There is a single bright dot under his left eye, and the right side of his nose should be slightly taller to match the left side.
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