Old winsor newton paint

[Danielle123]

       Nolan, i have some 15 year old Windor Newton paint artisan (water mixable oil paint)  some are hard, i can not press the tube.
1)  are they good paint?
2)  can I salvage them, to start oil paintings?
3)  here is the list of my old paint colours. 
         A) yellow ochre
         B) raw sienna
         C) cadmium red
         D) dioxazine purple
         E) cadmium yellow Light
         F) cobalt blue hue
         G) magenta
I am presently looking at your lessons on colours and equipment, very informative.



Thank you for your help,   I might start in a month or so. 

[ncwren]

Sounds like the hard ones went bad-did you try and open them and test?

[Danielle123]

I did, they are all useable except for the blue that I could not push out of the tube. .  Maybe if I break the tube some of it will be soft.   Maybe best to purchase a new blue.    Natalie.

[Annie.]

Danielle,
Isn't Artisan the student grade of W&N?   I cannot help wonder, with the high quality of your artist's work, if you will be pleased with lower quality paints.

If you only buy the basic colors needed it may not be too expensive. 

I am no professional of course, but I first tried left over Artisan water soluble oil and it was not great.  Soon, I treated myself with a few basic tubes of M. Graham and I found a bit difference in color mixing, and smoothness of application.

I choose M. Graham simply because W&N are grossly over priced here, and I was told it was a very comparable quality of paint.  Some local artists ever say they prefer its softness but even detailed application. 

Let's see what more experience members say.

[Danielle123]

  Annie for your info.   I though if it said artisan they would be good quality....   
I just purchaed a french ultramarine blue winsor newton #21 and a white titanium  series 1 and these do not say artisan.  Hope they are good got them half price it was 10$ regular at Michaels.   i might have to buy yellow and red now if you say the artizan are not so good.   I certainly can not affort 27$  up paint.   

Hope I can use the artisan paint,  anyone else used these?

[ncwren]

Artisan is the WATER soluble oil brand for Winsor Newton Annie. I don't think they make a student grade oil paint like Cotman for watercolors.

[musika]

Winsor & Newton

Artisan - Water mixable oil paint
Winton - Student grade oil paint
Artists' Oil Paint - Premium Grade oil paint

[Annie.]

I stand corrected.  Thank you.    Thought the water soluble was a student paint.

Now, can Artisan be mixed with W&N ?

[BDEddy]

Funny I just read this on another forum, wish I had kept the link.

Artisan is actually not artist quality but it is better than W&N student quality. It is mid-line between the two.

That information is hard to find and I wish I had know that before as I had purchased several tubes of it. 

I also found that Holbein Duo and Weber wOil is artist quality water mixable and I will be switching to those brands in the future. There may be other brands but those are for sure.

@Annie - Yes water mixable can be mixed with normal oil paint but if more than 30% of regular oil paint is mixed in it will no longer be water mixable and you will have to clean up with turps.

Hope that helps.

[Bellarina]

Good info

[Danielle123]

  All for your responce.  Great info.

[Annie.]

Thank you 

[ncwren]

I also stand corrected!