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Reply #30 on: September 23, 2011, 09:12:03 PM
Got your message on using the Cad Yellow when you placed in the Sap Green for the stem Nolan. So it was first..pure Raw Umber, followed by Raw Umber again (with some yellow ochre maybe added)? Then pure Yellow Ochre...followed by the sap green blend. It's not that critical is it? I can lighten the first band with ochre or cad, right?
« Last Edit: September 23, 2011, 09:36:46 PM by nolan »
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.


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Reply #31 on: September 23, 2011, 09:27:14 PM
Pity you haven't added a photo  :-\

PS - I changed the title of your post so it is easier to see what the post is all about before opening it. Always try and use titles that describe the content. That way it becomes easier for the folks that have less time on their hands to scan for topics that relate to what they are interested in O0


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Reply #32 on: September 23, 2011, 09:41:50 PM
don't slavishly stick to the colours I have used Pat. The idea is that you learn to see and mix the colours yourself by comparing with your reference material and using your colour mixing knowledge. You will be doing this constantly throughout the painting. In fact the entire painting is made up of small impromptu mixes so by the end of the 3rd petal you will end up with 6 or 7 unique mixes, each only slightly different from the previous.

If I look at the stem I painted in class and the one I painted before they look totally different in colour, but both look right in context to the painting itself.


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Reply #33 on: September 23, 2011, 09:57:15 PM
Ok Nolan. Now if you said, "Pat, you HAVE to use these colors". I'd believe every word. Glad you said, I can use others in that ballpark on my own. It gives me confidence to hear someone experienced to say "it's ok".
When I go by the photograph, I can see how I would have done it differently. It really helps to see how you interpret things. This is the true learning experience. I can see how much of it has to do with not being so particular to the photo in some ways, such as the exact shadings of the colors themselves, and yet, more careful about things such as contours, edges, lost/found edges, etc.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2011, 05:02:49 PM by patindaytona »
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.


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Reply #34 on: September 23, 2011, 10:34:27 PM
I have just finished the background for the painting.  I used masking tape since I didn't get a chance to get clear cover.  Not sure if the tape had anything to do with it, but my green sap was a little runny and bled a little.  I was able to mop most of the bleed up, so not tragic.  I really liked the finger painting technique, it gave a very spontaneous, abstract look, which could be interpreted as leaves and bushes, with no effort to do so.  Not sure if you wanted to work in later after dry with a few well placed brush strokes whether that would ruin the spontaneous feeling.  Looking forward to getting to the next stage.  I have posted it to my gallery.


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Reply #35 on: September 23, 2011, 10:41:48 PM
looks great so far Gail O0


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Reply #36 on: September 24, 2011, 09:23:13 AM
 :) Hi.  Well here is my background.  It took me quite a long time to do but enjoyed it especially the finger painting part of it - got paint all over though... :2funny:.  The background came out darker than yours Nolan and only after seeing the replay did I realize I should have added a little Ultra blue to the dark mix.   That is why my background has a lot of dark shadow colour (reddish), if I had added the blue would it have been darker and more green? 

Thank you Nolan for explaining all and more during the demo.  :congrats:  and Denis we haven't forgotton you behind the camera....thanks for such a professional video.   And love it when you show your face at the end of the show.  :1hug:  :yippee:
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Reply #37 on: September 24, 2011, 10:42:44 AM
The red did overpower the green, which you could have counteracted by adding the blue, but I quite like that background and think it will still work with the flower. O0

Glad to see everybody is not scared to get their fingers full of paint :clap: It's great fun isn't it  ;)


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Reply #38 on: September 24, 2011, 11:15:52 AM
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   Hi Nolan,
       Have done my background today and quite happy with the colors as i did not have sap green so made mine up and made it as close to your color as possible, will wait for a day or two before doing the stem. I'm looking forward to the next replay and will also make up the colors for the petals before the next show.Am enjoying the flower project a lot.


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Reply #39 on: September 24, 2011, 04:24:03 PM
Got the background in and did the stem on them today. I couldn't find my Yellow Ochre, so I just substitued some Raw Sienna. When I added some of the Cad Yellow (not even sure if it was the warm or cool and I never pay much attention to that either..party because my tubes are covered with dry paint). I think when I added it, it made some greenish color, so I didn't have to add any of the Sap Green on the stem. Love the color...a nice woodsy look. Went over the edges into the background just slightly here and there, so I'll just wait and touch up another day. No hurry.
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Reply #40 on: September 24, 2011, 05:11:28 PM
Looks real good Valweb. I like it alot! Looks great as it is. Nolan, I will start making the titles more descriptive.
Nolan, I can see also how this is going to be a painting where we are all going to have our own little mixes of colors before it's over and use our own decisiveness. This is really how to begin to use our own artistic licsense. Not too much to overwhelm just enough. I hope we can level off on this stage of advancement for a while though. Their isn't too much more "advancement" to learn, is there? I know you can do alot with this knowledge aquired so far.
The moment you find yourself mostly satisfied with a painting and think you'll "just quickly" do this or that, that's the moment to stop completely. Take the painting off your easel and put it aside for at least 24 hours, then reassess whether it really needs that tweak.


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Reply #41 on: September 24, 2011, 09:26:03 PM
I am building slowly Pat, Remember one or two new things per painting O0


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Reply #42 on: September 25, 2011, 03:04:26 AM
Nolan, I am playing catch up.  I missed the part where you put the mask down - and only saw you painting over it then removing it.  What is the material you used?  I went to Michael's art supplies to find a "mask" and all they had was tape.   It it a gel that dries or is it a laminating plastic that is cut out?
Kelley


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Reply #43 on: September 25, 2011, 07:26:35 AM
Kelley, just watch it on the replay HERE O0


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Reply #44 on: September 25, 2011, 02:12:02 PM
Got it.  Thanks Nolan!  O0
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