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on: May 29, 2016, 10:06:02 PM

To say I've been struggling with this painting is an understand! A client commissioned me to paint a picture of her son using this photo as a reference. She loves how it looks like he's walking on water and getting a blessing from God. I'm not very good with ocean scenes - I've been fiddling with this for over a month and am not sure I can do it. Any suggestions to help me make this better would be greatly appreciated. Not sure if I should start all over again, mostly because if I do I may not be able to do it better. My strengths are paintings with a close up of something/someone. Feeling anxious and not very talented right now!
Cheers,
Sharon


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Reply #1 on: May 29, 2016, 10:43:30 PM
Hi Sharon,
It is the photograph... not you!  :nono:

I would make the light hitting him, from thin (top) to thicker (as it is) when it touch him, maybe with a touch of gold yellow in the ray as it gets closer to him.  So the eye is drawn to the focal point, the person.

I would have moved him to the left lower third (if this allowed), so that he would be a bit closer and therefore bigger... again the person is the focus.

I would change his clothes to something brighter and in contrast with the environment... like red or some yellows.

I would add more value contrast between the foreground and the distance. 

I would experiment with various croping of the photo.

I also think you need to use your artist licence to add highlight and colours.  Just like you wouln't paint a boring all green scenery, without adding yellows and reds to the vegetation.

I don't think you should feel 'untalented', you are just as talented as few days ago 😉  right?  What I really think is that you are showing us a great example of a beautiful photo which doesn't translate directly into a beautiful painting (Nolan or Dennis said that long before me  :whistle: )

Of course, not that I could do any of my ideas in WC myself  :crazy2:


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Reply #2 on: May 29, 2016, 11:12:05 PM
Thank you, Annie, for taking the time to make so many excellent suggestions.  It really does need to be scrapped.  I'll try recropping  - perhaps it might be better to leave out the rocks in the front and just have the guy be larger in the water. Or I may tell the client it's best to just frame the photo because I agree, it's not a good reference for a painting. 
Cheers,
Sharon


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Reply #3 on: May 29, 2016, 11:27:48 PM
Sharon,

You've actually done quite well so far.

The only parts that jump out at me are the white caps on the water (too many, too bright, too rigid0 and the overly-round rocks in the bottom right.

Being that it is watercolor, I' don't know if it's better to begin again or try to fix it.

If anybody can do it, you can.

aloha

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Reply #4 on: May 29, 2016, 11:50:34 PM
Sharon,

You've actually done quite well so far.

The only parts that jump out at me are the white caps on the water (too many, too bright, too rigid0 and the overly-round rocks in the bottom right.

Being that it is watercolor, I' don't know if it's better to begin again or try to fix it.

If anybody can do it, you can.

aloha

mea.

Sharon, I agree with Mea! If you can soften the white caps, I think you would just about have it.
Kathy S.


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Reply #5 on: May 29, 2016, 11:58:24 PM
Thanks Mea and Kathy. I'll give that a try first!
Cheers,
Sharon


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Reply #6 on: May 30, 2016, 12:43:43 AM
Sharon, this seems to be a scene where you should take some artistic license. As Annie suggested, I would make the
figure  larger and move him lower and to the left, to the intersection where the rule-of-thirds would have you place him. And I would angle his orientation so he's facing northeast. I think the rocks should show greater variation of color, as they do in the photo. The whitecaps and the spray requires a lighter touch. If you retain the sunbeam, it needs to be very subtle. This can be a very beautiful painting, but it wouldn't be a replica of the photograph.
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Reply #7 on: May 30, 2016, 01:36:16 AM
hi Sharon , i agree with the above comments there are too many objects  to focus on ... i would have done some  basic pencil composition /notan drawings and select the best , probably show the client the final composition that would be your  painting may look like etc etc .... just some suggestions,  all the best for this painting  O0 O0


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Reply #8 on: May 30, 2016, 06:38:47 AM
Sharon, the sea is all the same colour and makes it look like a vertical wall. The sea must get lighter towards the horizon for this painting. Another thing, you have added way too many wave caps and that makes it a very choppy surface and detracts from the subject. Keep the wave caps to an absolute bare minimum. The rocks under the water will not have highlights to them. Tone down all the underwater rocks and also soften them. Keep at it O0 We all struggled like this in the beginning.
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Reply #9 on: May 30, 2016, 06:07:45 PM
Sharon, I have just seen this painting and I think you have done an excellent job on the whole but as others have said, too many white caps which are distracting.  A few tweaks and you will have another beautiful painting. Don't be discouraged and don't let it beat you for you are a wonderful artist.


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Reply #10 on: May 30, 2016, 07:10:38 PM
Hip, hip, hip, Hurray for Sharon :yippee:
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Reply #11 on: May 30, 2016, 07:36:27 PM

Wow - I'm so appreciative of everyone's comments - thank you all so much! I've incorporated the tweaks suggested - lightening up the water and removing most of the caps, changing the color of his shirt, removing highlights from the rocks all made a difference. What do you think? I think I still need to redo this painting - including enlarging the figure and moving him to the left. Plus lightening up the beam from heaven. Calming down now! It's amazing how emotional a painting can make us feel.
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Sharon


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Reply #12 on: May 30, 2016, 08:12:08 PM
Much better, Sharon. I think your next painting of Dani's son will be a winner.  :yippee:
Kathy S.


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Reply #13 on: May 30, 2016, 08:21:24 PM
Thanks Kathy. I'm already sketching it out.
Cheers,
Sharon


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Reply #14 on: May 30, 2016, 08:27:45 PM
Sharon, I've studied the photo again. The sunbeam, which is very subtle, seems to end at the water's edge. In other words, it doesn't appear to extend across the water and onto the figure. Good luck! Take your time. I have had to re-do a number of paintings.
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